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+title: "When Unity and Unreal package textures and generate mip maps, are the mip maps generated with the same 2x2 box filter that glGenerateMipmaps uses, or a high quality multi-tap resampling filter? Even a very costly resample should be cheaper than good GPU texture compression."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1478077222841995265"
+author: "John Carmack"
+handle: ID_AA_Carmack
+post_id: "1478077222841995265"
+date: 2022-01-03
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "When Unity and Unreal package textures and generate mip maps, are the mip maps generated with the same 2x2 box filter that glGenerateMipmaps uses, or a high quality multi-tap resampling filter? Even a very costly resample should be cheaper than good GPU texture compression."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1478077222841995265
+- Author: John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)
+- Posted: 2022-01-03 18:54:05
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1478077222841995265
+
+When Unity and Unreal package textures and generate mip maps, are the mip maps generated with the same 2x2 box filter that glGenerateMipmaps uses, or a high quality multi-tap resampling filter? Even a very costly resample should be cheaper than good GPU texture compression.
+
+**2/** **@cmuratori** ^1478450814838472707
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Is there any way to use something other than a box filter and _not_ require trilinear filtering, though? The advantage of 2x2 box filtering MIPs is that for any 2D use (common in Unity), you no longer need trilinear filtering, because the transition is mathematically seamless.
+
+**3/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1478459632423161865
+
+**@cmuratori**
+
+What do you mean by 'mathematically seamless'? Any proper filter should be 'energy conserving', but the transition between mip levels, especially in 2D scaling, will always have a jarring pop without trilinear (which, unfortunately, is blending a too-blurry and a aliased image).
+
+**4/** **@omershapira** ^1478464461388271622
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack** **@cmuratori**
+
+I *think* what he means is a 2x2 box filter averages out the nyquist frequency, avoiding aliasing, so when zooming perpendicular to the image plane (“2D”), a realtime filtered pixel at the transition point will equal the prefiltered replacement.
+
+**5/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1478470219488190469
+
+**@omershapira** **@cmuratori**
+
+But that isn't what happens with bilinear-nearest filtering, because as soon as the step distance goes below 1 texel on either axis, it drops to the smaller mip level with a very obvious pop -- it avoids aliasing by being up to 2x blurrier (on each axis).
+
+**6/** **@omershapira** ^1478473383364993025
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack** **@cmuratori**
+
+define “below 1” :) The claim is that under a 2D axis-aligned zoom, *at* a distance of d=1, the box filter is the optimal (energy conserving) filtering, and when the sampler drops a mip level, it replaces the box-filtered 2x2 tile with the same precalculated value without a pop
+
+**7/** **@omershapira** ^1478475334865633290
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack** **@cmuratori**
+
+This is obviously not guaranteed to happen in practice (bilinear-nearest has a non-integer bias, and dxdy can be jittered), in which case a mip level will drop/rise and cause excessive filtering. Either way, I don’t consider being able to do it more than an anecdote.
+
+**8/** **@cmuratori** ^1478505985878605824
+
+**@omershapira** **@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I actually wrote our 2D stuff this way, and unless I did something special that I don't remember doing, it "just works" and you can avoid trilinear everywhere - more importantly, you can _avoid having the other MIP resident_, which is important for low memory as well.
+
+**9/** **@cmuratori** ^1478506351286358017
+
+**@omershapira** **@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I of course agree that for other scenarios you may prefer a sharpening filter instead and pay for the trilinear/aniso. But for a (wide) class of games, which are 2D, I would have to see more proof that a box filter isn't at least a reasonable choice.
+
+**10/** **@cmuratori** ^1478506695781322753
+
+**@omershapira** **@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+It is also important to recognize that many 2D sprites do not scale more than 4x in the first place, so the amount of improvement you get from a sharpening filter is further suspect. For certain art, maybe, but for a lot of art, the difference is negligible.
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack hello.I think that flight and driving rig simulators (e.g."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/0xDEAD0xBEEF/status/1707616276015727008"
+author: "0xDEAD 0xBEEF"
+handle: 0xDEAD0xBEEF
+post_id: "1707616276015727008"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack hello.I think that flight and driving rig simulators (e.g."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/0xDEAD0xBEEF/status/1707616276015727008
+- Author: 0xDEAD 0xBEEF (@0xDEAD0xBEEF)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:40:20
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@0xDEAD0xBEEF** ^1707616276015727008
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+hello.I think that flight and driving rig simulators (e.g. fs2020, dcs, assetto corsa) Wil be a good niche for AR systems (you have to locate switches and buttons in real word (the rig) while flying/driving
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack We would need to define what would make Quest MR successful and over what time."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/1DigitalReality/status/1707719351577555266"
+author: "Digital Reality"
+handle: 1DigitalReality
+post_id: "1707719351577555266"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack We would need to define what would make Quest MR successful and over what time."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/1DigitalReality/status/1707719351577555266
+- Author: Digital Reality (@1DigitalReality)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 11:29:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@1DigitalReality** ^1707719351577555266
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+We would need to define what would make Quest MR successful and over what time.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I bet you a pizza and a 12 pack of diet coke that 50% of daily time in headset will be spent interacting with digital objects and social type experiences in MR within a year of launch"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Aidan_Wolf/status/1707615331890684011"
+author: "aidan"
+handle: Aidan_Wolf
+post_id: "1707615331890684011"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I bet you a pizza and a 12 pack of diet coke that 50% of daily time in headset will be spent interacting with digital objects and social type experiences in MR within a year of launch"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Aidan_Wolf/status/1707615331890684011
+- Author: aidan (@Aidan_Wolf)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:36:35
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Aidan_Wolf** ^1707615331890684011
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I bet you a pizza and a 12 pack of diet coke that 50% of daily time in headset will be spent interacting with digital objects and social type experiences in MR within a year of launch
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I'll bet you one ZAR to a local SPCA that me, a total beginner for circuit board repair, will find value in mixed reality with it pointing out which tiny component does what and suggests where to put the multimeter to check for continuity, etc."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AndrewJacksonZA/status/1707726342723088443"
+author: "Andrew Jackson"
+handle: AndrewJacksonZA
+post_id: "1707726342723088443"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I'll bet you one ZAR to a local SPCA that me, a total beginner for circuit board repair, will find value in mixed reality with it pointing out which tiny component does what and suggests where to put the multimeter to check for continuity, etc."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AndrewJacksonZA/status/1707726342723088443
+- Author: Andrew Jackson (@AndrewJacksonZA)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 11:57:42
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@AndrewJacksonZA** ^1707726342723088443
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I'll bet you one ZAR to a local SPCA that me, a total beginner for circuit board repair, will find value in mixed reality with it pointing out which tiny component does what and suggests where to put the multimeter to check for continuity, etc. Heck, even which bunches of /2
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I suspect you are not intimately familiar with just how much money there is in the \"American gun enthusiast\" market."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/1707774791787102513"
+author: "Devon Eriksen"
+handle: Devon_Eriksen_
+post_id: "1707774791787102513"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I suspect you are not intimately familiar with just how much money there is in the \"American gun enthusiast\" market."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/1707774791787102513
+- Author: Devon Eriksen (@Devon_Eriksen_)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 15:10:13
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Devon_Eriksen_** ^1707774791787102513
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I suspect you are not intimately familiar with just how much money there is in the "American gun enthusiast" market.
+
+I am not, however, wealthy enough to make cash bets with the guy who founded Id.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Well you are saying ever, the techs way too 'look at my earpods' right now."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/GameDevMicah/status/1707770070615871609"
+author: "🔥GameDevMicah🔥"
+handle: GameDevMicah
+post_id: "1707770070615871609"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Well you are saying ever, the techs way too 'look at my earpods' right now."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/GameDevMicah/status/1707770070615871609
+- Author: 🔥GameDevMicah🔥 (@GameDevMicah)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 14:51:28
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@GameDevMicah** ^1707770070615871609
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Well you are saying ever, the techs way too 'look at my earpods' right now. Its going to take a lot of improvement to get it inside of a contact / invisible to non-wearers
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack \"I remain unconvinced that mixed reality applications are any kind of an engine for increasing headset sales.\""
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/GordanKnott/status/1707641063215616469"
+author: "Gordan Knott"
+handle: GordanKnott
+post_id: "1707641063215616469"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack \"I remain unconvinced that mixed reality applications are any kind of an engine for increasing headset sales.\""
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/GordanKnott/status/1707641063215616469
+- Author: Gordan Knott (@GordanKnott)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 06:18:50
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@GordanKnott** ^1707641063215616469
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+"I remain unconvinced that mixed reality applications are any kind of an engine for increasing headset sales."
+
+This is too easy. 
+
+I bet you £1 that more passthrough capable headsets will be sold in the coming year than headsets without passthrough.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I don't think it will increase sales but the technology could increase the possibility of better feedback loops for integrating the real world stimuli into the virtual world."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/GrapheneWaffles/status/1707755721310568469"
+author: "Sandwich 🥪 (Dragomir)"
+handle: GrapheneWaffles
+post_id: "1707755721310568469"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I don't think it will increase sales but the technology could increase the possibility of better feedback loops for integrating the real world stimuli into the virtual world."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/GrapheneWaffles/status/1707755721310568469
+- Author: Sandwich 🥪 (Dragomir) (@GrapheneWaffles)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 13:54:27
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@GrapheneWaffles** ^1707755721310568469
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I don't think it will increase sales but the technology could increase the possibility of better feedback loops for integrating the real world stimuli into the virtual world. The VR Duality Paradox, the awareness of both worlds and integration thereof needs...
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I bet you $50 that when I try MR for the first time I’ll like it"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/JaimeOrtega/status/1707649609839886374"
+author: "JaimeOrtega"
+handle: JaimeOrtega
+post_id: "1707649609839886374"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I bet you $50 that when I try MR for the first time I’ll like it"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/JaimeOrtega/status/1707649609839886374
+- Author: JaimeOrtega (@JaimeOrtega)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 06:52:48
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@JaimeOrtega** ^1707649609839886374
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I bet you $50 that when I try MR for the first time I’ll like it
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Aren’t we all going to be living in shipping container styled homes with no furniture in the future anyway?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MrWhzrd/status/1707873882055864698"
+author: "Kieran Fogarty"
+handle: MrWhzrd
+post_id: "1707873882055864698"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Aren’t we all going to be living in shipping container styled homes with no furniture in the future anyway?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MrWhzrd/status/1707873882055864698
+- Author: Kieran Fogarty (@MrWhzrd)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 21:43:58
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MrWhzrd** ^1707873882055864698
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Aren’t we all going to be living in shipping container styled homes with no furniture in the future anyway?
+One use case that’s non-consumer is large scale, multiplayer VR games inside gymnasium. We have to do something with those empty offices right? CSGoVRIRL ?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The utility is more in eye tracking for psych issues like ADHD - not the visual overlay."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/SMT_Solvers/status/1707614184270176284"
+author: "Chad Brewbaker"
+handle: SMT_Solvers
+post_id: "1707614184270176284"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The utility is more in eye tracking for psych issues like ADHD - not the visual overlay."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/SMT_Solvers/status/1707614184270176284
+- Author: Chad Brewbaker (@SMT_Solvers)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:32:02
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@SMT_Solvers** ^1707614184270176284
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The utility is more in eye tracking for psych issues like ADHD - not the visual overlay.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Look all I’m saying is that if my friends and I can play dnd across continents rolling virtual dice over actual tabletops I will give metaverse all of my money."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Sandbar101/status/1707615325133353379"
+author: "Sandbar"
+handle: Sandbar101
+post_id: "1707615325133353379"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Look all I’m saying is that if my friends and I can play dnd across continents rolling virtual dice over actual tabletops I will give metaverse all of my money."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Sandbar101/status/1707615325133353379
+- Author: Sandbar (@Sandbar101)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:36:34
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Sandbar101** ^1707615325133353379
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Look all I’m saying is that if my friends and I can play dnd across continents rolling virtual dice over actual tabletops I will give metaverse all of my money.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I’ll throw down a lunch bet."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Serellan/status/1707616030024229051"
+author: "Christian Allen"
+handle: Serellan
+post_id: "1707616030024229051"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I’ll throw down a lunch bet."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Serellan/status/1707616030024229051
+- Author: Christian Allen (@Serellan)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:39:22
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Serellan** ^1707616030024229051
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I’ll throw down a lunch bet. 
+
+I mean, even if I lose I get to have lunch with John Carmack. 
+
+So…win win.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack @ID_AA_Carmack I think of mixed reality as an improvement to AirPods."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/SnarkyPixel_/status/1707712655471919541"
+author: "SnarkyPixel 🇨🇦"
+handle: SnarkyPixel_
+post_id: "1707712655471919541"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack @ID_AA_Carmack I think of mixed reality as an improvement to AirPods."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/SnarkyPixel_/status/1707712655471919541
+- Author: SnarkyPixel 🇨🇦 (@SnarkyPixel_)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 11:03:19
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@SnarkyPixel_** ^1707712655471919541
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack** **@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I think of mixed reality as an improvement to AirPods. As boring as it seems, one major usecase is watching movies while doing chores.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I'm convinced that nothing will sell VR rapidly to the masses but eventually all these features will accumulate."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/TriGiamp/status/1707750820253438195"
+author: "Giampiero B"
+handle: TriGiamp
+post_id: "1707750820253438195"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I'm convinced that nothing will sell VR rapidly to the masses but eventually all these features will accumulate."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/TriGiamp/status/1707750820253438195
+- Author: Giampiero B (@TriGiamp)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 13:34:58
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@TriGiamp** ^1707750820253438195
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I'm convinced that nothing will sell VR rapidly to the masses but eventually all these features will accumulate. Personally I would love to connect a DP cable from my work laptop to a quest3-like hmd to improve my workplace. (My office sucks and it will not improve anytime soon)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Anime IRL (through AR) will encourage many incels to go outside, coercing them to join the workforce."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/VE5S3L/status/1707631611137642651"
+author: "vessel"
+handle: VE5S3L
+post_id: "1707631611137642651"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Anime IRL (through AR) will encourage many incels to go outside, coercing them to join the workforce."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/VE5S3L/status/1707631611137642651
+- Author: vessel (@VE5S3L)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 05:41:17
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@VE5S3L** ^1707631611137642651
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Anime IRL (through AR) will encourage many incels to go outside, coercing them to join the workforce. This is how we save the economy
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I agree with you and I wonder: what’s your track record on this kind of predictions?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/VersaceValerio/status/1707709303937732622"
+author: "Valerio Versace"
+handle: VersaceValerio
+post_id: "1707709303937732622"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I agree with you and I wonder: what’s your track record on this kind of predictions?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/VersaceValerio/status/1707709303937732622
+- Author: Valerio Versace (@VersaceValerio)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 10:50:00
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@VersaceValerio** ^1707709303937732622
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I agree with you and I wonder: what’s your track record on this kind of predictions?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack No, no one cares about your pennies."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/VukTheWolfy/status/1707704248681525381"
+author: "VukTheWolfy"
+handle: VukTheWolfy
+post_id: "1707704248681525381"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack No, no one cares about your pennies."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/VukTheWolfy/status/1707704248681525381
+- Author: VukTheWolfy (@VukTheWolfy)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 10:29:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@VukTheWolfy** ^1707704248681525381
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+No, no one cares about your pennies. That being said, there are just far too many use cases for a AR to be put aside just like that. Buckle up.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The appeal of mixed reality is to bridge the socially awkward gap of VR."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/canadacow/status/1707630121736437985"
+author: "Dean Beeler"
+handle: canadacow
+post_id: "1707630121736437985"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The appeal of mixed reality is to bridge the socially awkward gap of VR."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/canadacow/status/1707630121736437985
+- Author: Dean Beeler (@canadacow)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 05:35:21
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@canadacow** ^1707630121736437985
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The appeal of mixed reality is to bridge the socially awkward gap of VR. VR struggles with adoption because it is awkward to wear. Like men with hats, face masks now, and ruffs since Philip IV banned them in 1621. If mixed reality helps bridge that gap--it's a huge VR win.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The bet: the loser pays 6 months Twitter bluetick fees of the winner + if I win, you make my previous reply tweet sticky on your timeline for a month."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/cly3d/status/1707648195952791627"
+author: "Clyde DeSouza"
+handle: cly3d
+post_id: "1707648195952791627"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The bet: the loser pays 6 months Twitter bluetick fees of the winner + if I win, you make my previous reply tweet sticky on your timeline for a month."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/cly3d/status/1707648195952791627
+- Author: Clyde DeSouza (@cly3d)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 06:47:11
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@cly3d** ^1707648195952791627
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The bet: the loser pays 6 months Twitter bluetick fees of the winner + if I win, you make my previous reply tweet sticky on your timeline for a month. If you win, I mention you [again] and update your prediction in the next edition of my book.
+
+![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7LI-80XYAAtYh_?format=jpg&name=orig)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack What odds? The obvious application that occurs to me is all sorts of educational/tutorial content, which might allow the user to learn some physical skill, like exercise, cooking, a musical instrument, etc."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/cmills/status/1707625611890680209"
+author: "cmills.eth"
+handle: cmills
+post_id: "1707625611890680209"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack What odds? The obvious application that occurs to me is all sorts of educational/tutorial content, which might allow the user to learn some physical skill, like exercise, cooking, a musical instrument, etc."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/cmills/status/1707625611890680209
+- Author: cmills.eth (@cmills)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 05:17:26
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@cmills** ^1707625611890680209
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+What odds? The obvious application that occurs to me is all sorts of educational/tutorial content, which might allow the user to learn some physical skill, like exercise, cooking, a musical instrument, etc. Relies on a certain device form factor, but it seems plausible to me.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack A crumpled 10 GBP note says that cartoony chatting AI NPC / agent / assistant characters hanging out on your sofas, kitchen table, bed etc will be compelling and endearing within a couple of years."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/danbri/status/1707896962463277367"
+author: "Dan Brickley"
+handle: danbri
+post_id: "1707896962463277367"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack A crumpled 10 GBP note says that cartoony chatting AI NPC / agent / assistant characters hanging out on your sofas, kitchen table, bed etc will be compelling and endearing within a couple of years."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/danbri/status/1707896962463277367
+- Author: Dan Brickley (@danbri)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 23:15:41
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@danbri** ^1707896962463277367
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+A crumpled 10 GBP note says that cartoony chatting AI NPC / agent / assistant characters hanging out on your sofas, kitchen table, bed etc will be compelling and endearing within a couple of years. May drive literally dozens of headset sales… 💸
+
+<video controls src="https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/F7OrNhDXoAAzoQH.mp4"></video>
+<video controls src="https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/F7OrNhGW4AAKitV.mp4"></video>
+<video controls src="https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/F7OrNhEXMAAgDdd.mp4"></video>
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Let’s do a humiliation based bet instead I’m a social worker im poor"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/freakyhighrolla/status/1707619257087840644"
+author: "Marc with a c"
+handle: freakyhighrolla
+post_id: "1707619257087840644"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Let’s do a humiliation based bet instead I’m a social worker im poor"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/freakyhighrolla/status/1707619257087840644
+- Author: Marc with a c (@freakyhighrolla)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:52:11
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@freakyhighrolla** ^1707619257087840644
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Let’s do a humiliation based bet instead I’m a social worker im poor
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Both VR and MR will have a huge amount of exciting and useful applications."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/gastonsmit/status/1707811992554082383"
+author: "Gaston"
+handle: gastonsmit
+post_id: "1707811992554082383"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Both VR and MR will have a huge amount of exciting and useful applications."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/gastonsmit/status/1707811992554082383
+- Author: Gaston (@gastonsmit)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 17:38:03
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@gastonsmit** ^1707811992554082383
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Both VR and MR will have a huge amount of exciting and useful applications. MR is not about hanging a virtual painting on your wall. Think about the potential of social interactions with any kind of holograms in your living room. Or just about anything that feels like magic today
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack isn't it like holo lens for 500 bucks with a thousand vr apps and a couple hundred xbox games?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/heavymetaldemon/status/1707756565510406342"
+author: "Metal Metal VR Dog"
+handle: heavymetaldemon
+post_id: "1707756565510406342"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack isn't it like holo lens for 500 bucks with a thousand vr apps and a couple hundred xbox games?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/heavymetaldemon/status/1707756565510406342
+- Author: Metal Metal VR Dog (@heavymetaldemon)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 13:57:48
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@heavymetaldemon** ^1707756565510406342
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+isn't it like holo lens for 500 bucks with a thousand vr apps and a couple hundred xbox games?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I have something cooking that will work in both VR and AR for mainstream."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/jin_vix/status/1707650248951079055"
+author: "Jin Vix"
+handle: jin_vix
+post_id: "1707650248951079055"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I have something cooking that will work in both VR and AR for mainstream."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/jin_vix/status/1707650248951079055
+- Author: Jin Vix (@jin_vix)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 06:55:20
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@jin_vix** ^1707650248951079055
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I have something cooking that will work in both VR and AR for mainstream. Remember this post. People are looking at it wrong with tabletop games, I agree.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Alright, I’ll bite."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/jmdagdelen/status/1707618057022267465"
+author: "John Dagdelen"
+handle: jmdagdelen
+post_id: "1707618057022267465"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Alright, I’ll bite."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/jmdagdelen/status/1707618057022267465
+- Author: John Dagdelen (@jmdagdelen)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 04:47:25
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@jmdagdelen** ^1707618057022267465
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Alright, I’ll bite. $2000 to charity of choice says that MR apps will make up >30% of usage on VR headsets within 2 years. MR app defined as MR being a core feature of the game/app, usage defined as total person-time in app.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I actually think MR has greater potential than VR."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/kiaran_ritchie/status/1707835245259796861"
+author: "Kiaran Ritchie"
+handle: kiaran_ritchie
+post_id: "1707835245259796861"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I actually think MR has greater potential than VR."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/kiaran_ritchie/status/1707835245259796861
+- Author: Kiaran Ritchie (@kiaran_ritchie)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 19:10:27
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@kiaran_ritchie** ^1707835245259796861
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I actually think MR has greater potential than VR.
+
+Couch co-op / multiplayer tabletop experiences being the obvious one. 
+
+If it's wireless, you could go dungeon crawling through your house; replacing everything but the floor and your friends with a virtual environment.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Blade runner 2049 love scene using AR (I.e."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/maximaoptica/status/1707742160047460366"
+author: "opticamaxima"
+handle: maximaoptica
+post_id: "1707742160047460366"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Blade runner 2049 love scene using AR (I.e."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/maximaoptica/status/1707742160047460366
+- Author: opticamaxima (@maximaoptica)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 13:00:33
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@maximaoptica** ^1707742160047460366
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Blade runner 2049 love scene using AR (I.e. projecting image using headset rather than an external light source) is a human condition-transforming use case
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack $100 that whenever @NianticLabs releases PokemonGo on Quest it's the #1 game by revenue for over a year."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/mpauldaniels/status/1707864227963339016"
+author: "Marc Daniels 🇺🇸"
+handle: mpauldaniels
+post_id: "1707864227963339016"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack $100 that whenever @NianticLabs releases PokemonGo on Quest it's the #1 game by revenue for over a year."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/mpauldaniels/status/1707864227963339016
+- Author: Marc Daniels 🇺🇸 (@mpauldaniels)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 21:05:37
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@mpauldaniels** ^1707864227963339016
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+$100 that whenever @NianticLabs releases PokemonGo on Quest it's the #1 game by revenue for over a year.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The @tiltfive headset and @jeriellsworth are already a few years ahead taking on that bet 🤑"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/rajsite/status/1707763279949336888"
+author: "Milan Raj"
+handle: rajsite
+post_id: "1707763279949336888"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The @tiltfive headset and @jeriellsworth are already a few years ahead taking on that bet 🤑"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/rajsite/status/1707763279949336888
+- Author: Milan Raj (@rajsite)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 14:24:29
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@rajsite** ^1707763279949336888
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The @tiltfive headset and @jeriellsworth are already a few years ahead taking on that bet 🤑
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "would it be fair to say this is accurate but only because the developers who would otherwise develop the \"killer\" apps for MR simply cannot afford the hardware to be able to do any development, I'm confident you are correct but only for now, give it a few years until the hardware is much cheaper and more accessible to developers and this will turn around pretty quick especially when you consider the commercial industrial applications, the gaming industry all come up with somthing"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/thejollygrimrea/status/1707667153552540129"
+author: "Thejollygrimreaper"
+handle: thejollygrimrea
+post_id: "1707667153552540129"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "would it be fair to say this is accurate but only because the developers who would otherwise develop the \"killer\" apps for MR simply cannot afford the hardware to be able to do any development, I'm confident you are correct but only for now, give it a few years until the hardware is much cheaper and more accessible to developers and this will turn around pretty quick especially when you consider the commercial industrial applications, the gaming industry all come up with somthing"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/thejollygrimrea/status/1707667153552540129
+- Author: Thejollygrimreaper (@thejollygrimrea)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 08:02:30
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@thejollygrimrea** ^1707667153552540129
+
+would it be fair to say this is accurate but only because the developers who would otherwise develop the "killer" apps for MR simply cannot afford the hardware to be able to do any development, I'm confident you are correct but only for now, give it a few years until the hardware is much cheaper and more accessible to developers and this will turn around pretty quick especially when you consider the commercial industrial applications, the gaming industry all come up with somthing
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The idea that when you’re in the kitchen, there’s a conveniently located recipe site window that will never get greasy is compelling…"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/tmornini/status/1707794311889453554"
+author: "tmornini.hodl"
+handle: tmornini
+post_id: "1707794311889453554"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The idea that when you’re in the kitchen, there’s a conveniently located recipe site window that will never get greasy is compelling…"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/tmornini/status/1707794311889453554
+- Author: tmornini.hodl (@tmornini)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 16:27:47
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@tmornini** ^1707794311889453554
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The idea that when you’re in the kitchen, there’s a conveniently located recipe site window that will never get greasy is compelling…
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack VR is better but I think MR is a harder problem to solve — so it's a good place to aim at."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/JS19372357/status/1707931168333795480"
+author: "Teddy Fluxpin"
+handle: JS19372357
+post_id: "1707931168333795480"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack VR is better but I think MR is a harder problem to solve — so it's a good place to aim at."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/JS19372357/status/1707931168333795480
+- Author: Teddy Fluxpin (@JS19372357)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 01:31:37
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@JS19372357** ^1707931168333795480
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+VR is better but I think MR is a harder problem to solve — so it's a good place to aim at.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack You are making yourself vulnerable to be the target of the next “640kb is enough for everyone meme 😂"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/LehahnB/status/1708031869885784469"
+author: "Bernd"
+handle: LehahnB
+post_id: "1708031869885784469"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack You are making yourself vulnerable to be the target of the next “640kb is enough for everyone meme 😂"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/LehahnB/status/1708031869885784469
+- Author: Bernd (@LehahnB)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 08:11:46
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@LehahnB** ^1708031869885784469
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+You are making yourself vulnerable to be the target of the next “640kb is enough for everyone meme 😂
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I think its Wrong to compare the Modes or Pit them against each other."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MrRichardBasham/status/1708138175070171389"
+author: "Richard Basham"
+handle: MrRichardBasham
+post_id: "1708138175070171389"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I think its Wrong to compare the Modes or Pit them against each other."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MrRichardBasham/status/1708138175070171389
+- Author: Richard Basham (@MrRichardBasham)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 15:14:11
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MrRichardBasham** ^1708138175070171389
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I think its Wrong to compare the Modes or Pit them against each other. Both have Value. Having MR with 2D screens. MR just gives you extra opportunities to spend time in the HMD. MR has the Potential to Enhance traditional 2D experiences. 1/2
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack MR seems like a novel accessory/recreation in a world ever expanding in external compute without integrating value-adding interfacing with the users' context(s)"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/TroyJamesMonger/status/1707949457201864819"
+author: "Troy James Monger"
+handle: TroyJamesMonger
+post_id: "1707949457201864819"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack MR seems like a novel accessory/recreation in a world ever expanding in external compute without integrating value-adding interfacing with the users' context(s)"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/TroyJamesMonger/status/1707949457201864819
+- Author: Troy James Monger (@TroyJamesMonger)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 02:44:17
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@TroyJamesMonger** ^1707949457201864819
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+MR seems like a novel accessory/recreation in a world ever expanding in external compute without integrating value-adding interfacing with the users' context(s)
+Even if it's just additional information about local & global subjects of interest.
+@neuralink will probs outperform 🤷🏻‍♂️
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I think there is a case for the virtual screen to make life easier in lots of circumstances."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/danpatcronin/status/1708134652270014963"
+author: "Daniel Cronin"
+handle: danpatcronin
+post_id: "1708134652270014963"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I think there is a case for the virtual screen to make life easier in lots of circumstances."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/danpatcronin/status/1708134652270014963
+- Author: Daniel Cronin (@danpatcronin)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 15:00:11
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@danpatcronin** ^1708134652270014963
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I think there is a case for the virtual screen to make life easier in lots of circumstances. Taxi screen could highlight passenger from a distance or in a crowd. Ambulance’s too. Search and Rescue too. Just looking for friends in crowded arena’s. Lots of “hard to find use cases.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack i think ur wrong but that just makes me think that i am actually wrong.."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/eemigratee/status/1707942106793226308"
+author: "~ . ₿ / Ξ /◎"
+handle: eemigratee
+post_id: "1707942106793226308"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack i think ur wrong but that just makes me think that i am actually wrong.."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/eemigratee/status/1707942106793226308
+- Author: ~ . ₿ / Ξ /◎ (@eemigratee)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 02:15:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@eemigratee** ^1707942106793226308
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+i think ur wrong but that just makes me think that i am actually wrong.. i’ll put $50 on it tho
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Carmack I was trying to answer you but I realized I was saying the same thing back to you."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/nickbradley628/status/1708136340523819330"
+author: "nick bradley"
+handle: nickbradley628
+post_id: "1708136340523819330"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Carmack I was trying to answer you but I realized I was saying the same thing back to you."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/nickbradley628/status/1708136340523819330
+- Author: nick bradley (@nickbradley628)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 15:06:53
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@nickbradley628** ^1708136340523819330
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Carmack I was trying to answer you but I realized I was saying the same thing back to you. We still trying to correct the current reality from not sucking, good old enthropy......progress's arch nemisis lol
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I don't have cash to place a bet with you."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/rezmeram/status/1707941266405699672"
+author: "RameshR"
+handle: rezmeram
+post_id: "1707941266405699672"
+date: 2023-09-30
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I don't have cash to place a bet with you."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/rezmeram/status/1707941266405699672
+- Author: RameshR (@rezmeram)
+- Posted: 2023-09-30 02:11:44
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@rezmeram** ^1707941266405699672
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I don't have cash to place a bet with you. But there are a HUGE spectrum of Augmented reality applications in Medicine, real time data overlay or visualization overlay over a patient body or while navigating inside the body while driving surgical bots.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The killer app of AR is not entertainment but Post-it notes."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/TuringTest/status/1709300365374423277"
+author: "Test de Turing 🌈"
+handle: TuringTest
+post_id: "1709300365374423277"
+date: 2023-10-03
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The killer app of AR is not entertainment but Post-it notes."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/TuringTest/status/1709300365374423277
+- Author: Test de Turing 🌈 (@TuringTest)
+- Posted: 2023-10-03 20:12:19
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@TuringTest** ^1709300365374423277
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The killer app of AR is not entertainment but Post-it notes. AR is the ultimate tool for adding metadata to our near environment. People have been augmenting their surrounds for millennia through sign post, maps and advertisements; AR adds the power of computation on top of that.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "The true \"killer app\" for MR should be the OS / Home UX."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/callenshaw/status/1709252935316541936"
+author: "Callen Shaw"
+handle: callenshaw
+post_id: "1709252935316541936"
+date: 2023-10-03
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "The true \"killer app\" for MR should be the OS / Home UX."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1707610407148384368"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/callenshaw/status/1709252935316541936
+- Author: Callen Shaw (@callenshaw)
+- Posted: 2023-10-03 17:03:50
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@callenshaw** ^1709252935316541936
+
+The true "killer app" for MR should be the OS / Home UX. You've complained about the friction of entering VR. If the first thing you see when donning a headset was your real environment, with some really good diagetic UI, it would become more approachable to mass audiences. Simple MR apps would serve as training wheels to more complex immersive apps. I imagine Apple R&D found something similar, since they dedicated a hardware dial to control the MR/VR blend.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-09-29-i-remain-unconvinced-that-mixed-reality]]
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+---
+title: "I remain unconvinced that mixed reality applications are any kind of an engine for increasing headset sales."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1707596120648478752"
+author: "John Carmack"
+handle: ID_AA_Carmack
+post_id: "1707596120648478752"
+date: 2023-09-29
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "I remain unconvinced that mixed reality applications are any kind of an engine for increasing headset sales."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1707596120648478752
+- Author: John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)
+- Posted: 2023-09-29 03:20:15
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1707596120648478752
+
+I remain unconvinced that mixed reality applications are any kind of an engine for increasing headset sales. High quality pass through is great, but I just don’t see applications built around integrating rendering with your real world environment as any kind of a killer app. I consider it interesting and challenging technology looking for a justification.
+
+The power of VR is to replace your environment with something much better, not to hang a virtual screen in your real environment. In all the highly produced videos demonstrating the MR future, the environments are always stylish, clean, and spacious. That is not representative of the real world user base.
+
+There is certainly some value in the efforts, but I have always thought there was much more low hanging fruit to be grabbed first.
+
+**2/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1707610407148384368
+
+If anyone is confident that I am wrong, feel free to suggest terms for a cash bet. Judging might be difficult without assistance from Meta, but we might come up with something.
+
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-date: 2025-12-24
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-description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Just tell chatgpt to convert you code into pseudocode"
-in_reply_to: ""
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-
-## Source
-
- URL: https://x.com/tableDwarf/status/2003923614329196673
- Author: tableDwarf (@tableDwarf)
- Posted: 2025-12-24 20:19:55
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-## Branch
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-**1/** **@tableDwarf** ^2003923614329196673
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-**@ID_AA_Carmack**
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-Just tell chatgpt to convert you code into pseudocode
-
-## Related
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- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code]]
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-title: "@ID_AA_Carmack No, as long as it’s valid APL code"
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-source_url: "https://x.com/verktoysett/status/2003934271216775611"
-author: "Verktøysett"
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-archived: 2026-08-26
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-description: "@ID_AA_Carmack No, as long as it’s valid APL code"
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-parent_post_id: "2003597901247713564"
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-## Source
-
- URL: https://x.com/verktoysett/status/2003934271216775611
- Author: Verktøysett (@verktoysett)
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-## Branch
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-**1/** **@verktoysett** ^2003934271216775611
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-**@ID_AA_Carmack**
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-No, as long as it’s valid APL code
-
-## Related
-
- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code]]
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---
-title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Papers are to Greek symbolized formulas what songs are to musical notation."
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-source_url: "https://x.com/xbubbascotch/status/2003622740310524166"
-author: "Bubbascotch"
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-post_id: "2003622740310524166"
-date: 2025-12-24
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-draft: false
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-  - twitter
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-description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Papers are to Greek symbolized formulas what songs are to musical notation."
-in_reply_to: ""
-parent_post_id: "2003597901247713564"
---
-
-## Source
-
- URL: https://x.com/xbubbascotch/status/2003622740310524166
- Author: Bubbascotch (@xbubbascotch)
- Posted: 2025-12-24 00:24:21
-
-## Branch
-
-**1/** **@xbubbascotch** ^2003622740310524166
-
-**@ID_AA_Carmack**
-
-Papers are to Greek symbolized formulas what songs are to musical notation.
-
-## Related
-
- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code]]
@@ -1,37 +0,0 @@
---
-title: "@ID_AA_Carmack This has always been a barrier to publishing for me."
-type: archive
-source: twitter
-source_url: "https://x.com/Alleycatsphinx/status/2004276494064140381"
-author: "Chris Birke"
-handle: Alleycatsphinx
-post_id: "2004276494064140381"
-date: 2025-12-25
-archived: 2026-08-26
-draft: false
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-description: "@ID_AA_Carmack This has always been a barrier to publishing for me."
-in_reply_to: ""
-parent_post_id: "2003597901247713564"
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-
-## Source
-
- URL: https://x.com/Alleycatsphinx/status/2004276494064140381
- Author: Chris Birke (@Alleycatsphinx)
- Posted: 2025-12-25 19:42:08
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-## Branch
-
-**1/** **@Alleycatsphinx** ^2004276494064140381
-
-**@ID_AA_Carmack**
-
-This has always been a barrier to publishing for me.
-
-## Related
-
- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code]]
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---
-title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Interesting idea! It could bring a fresh perspective to academic papers."
-type: archive
-source: twitter
-source_url: "https://x.com/ZaraTechie/status/2005165669453791529"
-author: "Zara Techie"
-handle: ZaraTechie
-post_id: "2005165669453791529"
-date: 2025-12-28
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-description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Interesting idea! It could bring a fresh perspective to academic papers."
-in_reply_to: ""
-parent_post_id: "2003597901247713564"
---
-
-## Source
-
- URL: https://x.com/ZaraTechie/status/2005165669453791529
- Author: Zara Techie (@ZaraTechie)
- Posted: 2025-12-28 06:35:24
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-## Branch
-
-**1/** **@ZaraTechie** ^2005165669453791529
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-**@ID_AA_Carmack**
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-Interesting idea! It could bring a fresh perspective to academic papers.
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-## Related
-
- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code]]
@@ -29,4 +29,4 @@ in_reply_to: ""

 Would papers get rejected if they used legal code with variable names instead of Greek laden pseudo code?

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+Branches: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code/2025-12-23-AlolanRonin-if-you-pick-the-right-journals-youd-be-just-fine]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code/2025-12-23-aryalpranays-how-hard-would-it-be-for-llms-to-transcribe-this]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code/2025-12-23-ElonBaldMusk-i-hate-math-notation-with-all-my-soul-one-of-my]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code/2025-12-23-FloatngUpstream-i-have-to-read-carefully-and-am-not-familiar-with]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2025-12-23-would-papers-get-rejected-if-they-used-legal-code/2025-12-23-grashalm_-math-papers-often-look-like-api-drafts-with]], 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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack underrated part of GPU optimization."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/0xV0LYX/status/2072321355735765222"
+author: "V0LYX"
+handle: 0xV0LYX
+post_id: "2072321355735765222"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack underrated part of GPU optimization."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/0xV0LYX/status/2072321355735765222
+- Author: V0LYX (@0xV0LYX)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:08:07
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@0xV0LYX** ^2072321355735765222
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+underrated part of GPU optimization. triangle count gets all the attention but layout and cache misses eat frames too
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack TLDR; carmack says to convex hull your letters and hull the whole word then retopo."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AwokeKnowing/status/2072406403759980668"
+author: "James"
+handle: AwokeKnowing
+post_id: "2072406403759980668"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack TLDR; carmack says to convex hull your letters and hull the whole word then retopo."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AwokeKnowing/status/2072406403759980668
+- Author: James (@AwokeKnowing)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 19:46:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@AwokeKnowing** ^2072406403759980668
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+TLDR; carmack says to convex hull your letters and hull the whole word then retopo.   his LOD flaggs were triggered.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack That's a fascinating edge case on edge lengths, I never thought about the 2x2 quad waste in planar meshes like that."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/EasyAi_Tools/status/2072328595465257192"
+author: "Easy AI Tools"
+handle: EasyAi_Tools
+post_id: "2072328595465257192"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack That's a fascinating edge case on edge lengths, I never thought about the 2x2 quad waste in planar meshes like that."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/EasyAi_Tools/status/2072328595465257192
+- Author: Easy AI Tools (@EasyAi_Tools)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:36:53
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@EasyAi_Tools** ^2072328595465257192
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+That's a fascinating edge case on edge lengths, I never thought about the 2x2 quad waste in planar meshes like that. It makes total sense for why good triangulation isn't just Delaunay. Is there any apps where this shaved noticeable time?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack i don't have fable yet for me to understand this at a deep level."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ElonBaldMusk/status/2072330262290047221"
+author: "ElonBald"
+handle: ElonBaldMusk
+post_id: "2072330262290047221"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack i don't have fable yet for me to understand this at a deep level."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ElonBaldMusk/status/2072330262290047221
+- Author: ElonBald (@ElonBaldMusk)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:43:31
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@ElonBaldMusk** ^2072330262290047221
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+i don't have fable yet for me to understand this at a deep level.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Apply this granular, factual, analytical, excellent breakdown to the waste and excess of using AI data centers for boring basic chatbot functions, like contact info and hours of operation."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/HeroicReplicas/status/2072337367361265833"
+author: "Dave at Heroic Replicas"
+handle: HeroicReplicas
+post_id: "2072337367361265833"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Apply this granular, factual, analytical, excellent breakdown to the waste and excess of using AI data centers for boring basic chatbot functions, like contact info and hours of operation."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/HeroicReplicas/status/2072337367361265833
+- Author: Dave at Heroic Replicas (@HeroicReplicas)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 15:11:45
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@HeroicReplicas** ^2072337367361265833
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Apply this granular, factual, analytical, excellent breakdown to the waste and excess of using AI data centers for boring basic chatbot functions, like contact info and hours of operation.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Would depend on the hardware target too, no?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/HostOfMeta/status/2072341739428274563"
+author: "Jeremie Pelletier"
+handle: HostOfMeta
+post_id: "2072341739428274563"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Would depend on the hardware target too, no?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/HostOfMeta/status/2072341739428274563
+- Author: Jeremie Pelletier (@HostOfMeta)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 15:29:07
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@HostOfMeta** ^2072341739428274563
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Would depend on the hardware target too, no?
+
+Say PowerVR GPUs where the tile-based architecture means tons of small triangles have higher penalties than the pixel/vertex shading costs tradeoff alone.
+
+I like to view optimizations as hardware-first for this reason then data runs.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack I saw some video about those pixel quads being a pain in the ass, idk why we don't fix that."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/IHateZuckSoMuch/status/2072369048130859129"
+author: "Misanthropia"
+handle: IHateZuckSoMuch
+post_id: "2072369048130859129"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack I saw some video about those pixel quads being a pain in the ass, idk why we don't fix that."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/IHateZuckSoMuch/status/2072369048130859129
+- Author: Misanthropia (@IHateZuckSoMuch)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 17:17:38
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@IHateZuckSoMuch** ^2072369048130859129
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+I saw some video about those pixel quads being a pain in the ass, idk why we don't fix that.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Triangle count still matters more than most realize."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/KURAOpenclaw/status/2072328980171289078"
+author: "KURAOpenclaw"
+handle: KURAOpenclaw
+post_id: "2072328980171289078"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Triangle count still matters more than most realize."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/KURAOpenclaw/status/2072328980171289078
+- Author: KURAOpenclaw (@KURAOpenclaw)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:38:25
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@KURAOpenclaw** ^2072328980171289078
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Triangle count still matters more than most realize. AI rendering engines are optimizing beyond geometry to infer intent.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,38 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Btw, for a large number of small triangles (1-3 pixels), this problem also valid for modern GPUs, which is why software/hybrid rasterizers like nanite or CUDA-based popular nowadays:"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MaxGraey/status/2072354259849375934"
+author: "MaxGraey 🌻 🇺🇦"
+handle: MaxGraey
+post_id: "2072354259849375934"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Btw, for a large number of small triangles (1-3 pixels), this problem also valid for modern GPUs, which is why software/hybrid rasterizers like nanite or CUDA-based popular nowadays:"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MaxGraey/status/2072354259849375934
+- Author: MaxGraey 🌻 🇺🇦 (@MaxGraey)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 16:18:52
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MaxGraey** ^2072354259849375934
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Btw, for a large number of small triangles (1-3 pixels), this problem also valid for modern GPUs, which is why software/hybrid rasterizers like nanite or CUDA-based popular nowadays:
+https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.21749
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Post bug fix version the original poster put up looks more inline with what you're saying here too"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MycelialClay/status/2072390986550911303"
+author: "Clay"
+handle: MycelialClay
+post_id: "2072390986550911303"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Post bug fix version the original poster put up looks more inline with what you're saying here too"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MycelialClay/status/2072390986550911303
+- Author: Clay (@MycelialClay)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 18:44:49
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MycelialClay** ^2072390986550911303
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Post bug fix version the original poster put up looks more inline with what you're saying here too
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack John, have you thought about to apply game engine logic to render language (as in context engineering) instead of pixels? Specifically, there are interesting parallells betweeen the frame budget constraint in graphics and the context window constraint - and upstream from there."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/NiclasJ/status/2072321341374505015"
+author: "Niclas Johansson"
+handle: NiclasJ
+post_id: "2072321341374505015"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack John, have you thought about to apply game engine logic to render language (as in context engineering) instead of pixels? Specifically, there are interesting parallells betweeen the frame budget constraint in graphics and the context window constraint - and upstream from there."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/NiclasJ/status/2072321341374505015
+- Author: Niclas Johansson (@NiclasJ)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:08:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@NiclasJ** ^2072321341374505015
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+John, have you thought about to apply game engine logic to render language (as in context engineering) instead of pixels? Specifically, there are interesting parallells betweeen the frame budget constraint in graphics and the context window constraint - and upstream from there.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack or or or calculate r^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 for infinite polygons."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ParkerRedford/status/2072333311330996278"
+author: "Parker Redford"
+handle: ParkerRedford
+post_id: "2072333311330996278"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack or or or calculate r^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 for infinite polygons."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ParkerRedford/status/2072333311330996278
+- Author: Parker Redford (@ParkerRedford)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:55:38
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@ParkerRedford** ^2072333311330996278
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+or or or calculate r^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 for infinite polygons.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack >There probably isn’t any real world case where this would be a crucial optimization"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/RedaOuVT/status/2072446504149848101"
+author: "Reda-OuーUltimate Villain ➥『 𝖘𝖔𝖚𝖙𝖍 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊 』"
+handle: RedaOuVT
+post_id: "2072446504149848101"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack >There probably isn’t any real world case where this would be a crucial optimization"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/RedaOuVT/status/2072446504149848101
+- Author: Reda-OuーUltimate Villain ➥『 𝖘𝖔𝖚𝖙𝖍 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊 』 (@RedaOuVT)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 22:25:25
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@RedaOuVT** ^2072446504149848101
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+>There probably isn’t any real world case where this would be a crucial optimization
+
+Isn't this the entire point of LODs? So you don't have a million triangles on the horizon occupying 1px?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack For ui work, this lesson never dies: total work matters but the shape and order of the work matter more, once caches, batches, and browsers enter the chat"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/evidype/status/2072432758744400331"
+author: "Sasha"
+handle: evidype
+post_id: "2072432758744400331"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack For ui work, this lesson never dies: total work matters but the shape and order of the work matter more, once caches, batches, and browsers enter the chat"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/evidype/status/2072432758744400331
+- Author: Sasha (@evidype)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 21:30:48
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@evidype** ^2072432758744400331
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+For ui work, this lesson never dies: total work matters but the shape and order of the work matter more, once caches, batches, and browsers enter the chat
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack This is a topic covered by an old blog post from @_Humus_  with some benchmarks https://www.humus.name/index.php?page=News&ID=228"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/fedyac/status/2072461700683419951"
+author: "Fedy ABI-CHAHLA"
+handle: fedyac
+post_id: "2072461700683419951"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack This is a topic covered by an old blog post from @_Humus_  with some benchmarks https://www.humus.name/index.php?page=News&ID=228"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/fedyac/status/2072461700683419951
+- Author: Fedy ABI-CHAHLA (@fedyac)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 23:25:48
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@fedyac** ^2072461700683419951
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+This is a topic covered by an old blog post from @_Humus_  with some benchmarks https://www.humus.name/index.php?page=News&ID=228
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Triangulation algorithms are RIDICULOUSLY finicky and near impossible to get right."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/galateacyc/status/2072453998016098679"
+author: "Galateacyc"
+handle: galateacyc
+post_id: "2072453998016098679"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Triangulation algorithms are RIDICULOUSLY finicky and near impossible to get right."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/galateacyc/status/2072453998016098679
+- Author: Galateacyc (@galateacyc)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 22:55:12
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@galateacyc** ^2072453998016098679
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Triangulation algorithms are RIDICULOUSLY finicky and near impossible to get right.  If you have a tessellation that works, never fuck with it.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack yeah, triangle count gets all the attention."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/i_mika_el/status/2072327562408112413"
+author: "Mikhail Rogov"
+handle: i_mika_el
+post_id: "2072327562408112413"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack yeah, triangle count gets all the attention."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/i_mika_el/status/2072327562408112413
+- Author: Mikhail Rogov (@i_mika_el)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:32:47
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@i_mika_el** ^2072327562408112413
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+yeah, triangle count gets all the attention. did the ordering differences show up clearly in the triangulations?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,38 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack earcut does have an optional triangle area optimization pass based on delauney"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/lep1c2l0/status/2072379768159232230"
+author: "lep1c2l0"
+handle: lep1c2l0
+post_id: "2072379768159232230"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack earcut does have an optional triangle area optimization pass based on delauney"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/lep1c2l0/status/2072379768159232230
+- Author: lep1c2l0 (@lep1c2l0)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 18:00:14
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@lep1c2l0** ^2072379768159232230
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+earcut does have an optional triangle area optimization pass based on delauney
+granted, it got it barely a day ago
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack don't you think gpus are going to be running the model that does the rendering soon enough?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/marcospereeira/status/2072320517130858986"
+author: "Marcos Pereira"
+handle: marcospereeira
+post_id: "2072320517130858986"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack don't you think gpus are going to be running the model that does the rendering soon enough?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/marcospereeira/status/2072320517130858986
+- Author: Marcos Pereira (@marcospereeira)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:04:47
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@marcospereeira** ^2072320517130858986
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+don't you think gpus are going to be running the model that does the rendering soon enough?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Feels unreal to see my library get retweeted by my role model."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/mourner/status/2072331931446841774"
+author: "Volodymyr Agafonkin 🇺🇦"
+handle: mourner
+post_id: "2072331931446841774"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Feels unreal to see my library get retweeted by my role model."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/mourner/status/2072331931446841774
+- Author: Volodymyr Agafonkin 🇺🇦 (@mourner)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:50:09
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@mourner** ^2072331931446841774
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Feels unreal to see my library get retweeted by my role model. ❤️ Delaunay is indeed considered the best precisely because it minimizes slivers & total triangle edge length, but I'm not sure how it impacts modern GPUs in practice — very curious for real world bench results!
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack cách sắp xếp tam giác phẳng này làm mình nhớ lại lần mình tối ưu mesh cho dự án cá nhân."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/nam_dau_tu/status/2072370080697233719"
+author: "Nam Đầu Tư"
+handle: nam_dau_tu
+post_id: "2072370080697233719"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack cách sắp xếp tam giác phẳng này làm mình nhớ lại lần mình tối ưu mesh cho dự án cá nhân."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/nam_dau_tu/status/2072370080697233719
+- Author: Nam Đầu Tư (@nam_dau_tu)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 17:21:44
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@nam_dau_tu** ^2072370080697233719
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+cách sắp xếp tam giác phẳng này làm mình nhớ lại lần mình tối ưu mesh cho dự án cá nhân. Tổng chiều dài cạnh giảm rõ rệt khi chuyển từ fan ra polygon nội tiếp
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack also, these triangles are terrible for FEM, it's painful to look at those sharp edges"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/optozorax/status/2072332651394908370"
+author: "ilya optozorax"
+handle: optozorax
+post_id: "2072332651394908370"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack also, these triangles are terrible for FEM, it's painful to look at those sharp edges"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/optozorax/status/2072332651394908370
+- Author: ilya optozorax (@optozorax)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:53:00
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@optozorax** ^2072332651394908370
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+also, these triangles are terrible for FEM, it's painful to look at those sharp edges
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Love this way of thinking."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sallubroz/status/2072320795779780816"
+author: "SKS"
+handle: sallubroz
+post_id: "2072320795779780816"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Love this way of thinking."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sallubroz/status/2072320795779780816
+- Author: SKS (@sallubroz)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:05:54
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@sallubroz** ^2072320795779780816
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Love this way of thinking. Performance often comes down to details most people never notice. That's the mindset behind great engineering.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Could this graphic triangle building in GPUs has an Impact on AI? Given it also uses GPUs?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/samiannoesis/status/2072325603554926709"
+author: "Samian Noesis"
+handle: samiannoesis
+post_id: "2072325603554926709"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Could this graphic triangle building in GPUs has an Impact on AI? Given it also uses GPUs?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/samiannoesis/status/2072325603554926709
+- Author: Samian Noesis (@samiannoesis)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:25:00
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@samiannoesis** ^2072325603554926709
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Could this graphic triangle building in GPUs has an Impact on AI? Given it also uses GPUs?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Inscribing the polygon first reduces fragment work and that leads to a better optimization than that of edges?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/samiannoesis/status/2072326023748735159"
+author: "Samian Noesis"
+handle: samiannoesis
+post_id: "2072326023748735159"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Inscribing the polygon first reduces fragment work and that leads to a better optimization than that of edges?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/samiannoesis/status/2072326023748735159
+- Author: Samian Noesis (@samiannoesis)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:26:40
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@samiannoesis** ^2072326023748735159
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Inscribing the polygon first reduces fragment work and that leads to a better optimization than that of edges?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack It's just how big is the cell list for the mesh."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sleep_deprivado/status/2072328357216407781"
+author: "Jason Newton"
+handle: sleep_deprivado
+post_id: "2072328357216407781"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack It's just how big is the cell list for the mesh."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sleep_deprivado/status/2072328357216407781
+- Author: Jason Newton (@sleep_deprivado)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:35:57
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@sleep_deprivado** ^2072328357216407781
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+It's just how big is the cell list for the mesh.
+Everybody loves to focus on the complex word not realizing how simple most of it is.
+I'm a CFD expert and this blew my mind so many times.
+Also skinny triangles suck.
+Friends don't let friends mesh with triangles.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "Notably this is *also* a problem in ray tracing: long and thin triangles end up degrading BVH quality which makes traversal more expensive."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/zeuxcg/status/2072367220873982042"
+author: "Arseny Kapoulkine 🇺🇦"
+handle: zeuxcg
+post_id: "2072367220873982042"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "Notably this is *also* a problem in ray tracing: long and thin triangles end up degrading BVH quality which makes traversal more expensive."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/zeuxcg/status/2072367220873982042
+- Author: Arseny Kapoulkine 🇺🇦 (@zeuxcg)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 17:10:22
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@zeuxcg** ^2072367220873982042
+
+Notably this is *also* a problem in ray tracing: long and thin triangles end up degrading BVH quality which makes traversal more expensive. Plus a thin triangle suffers even more under rotation, as the node bounds are (usually) axis aligned.
+
+This is all offset to some degree with "split BVH" (a long triangle gets placed into multiple smaller BVH nodes) but not all drivers implement that and this doesn't fully recover the cost.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack The problem with MWT (total edge-length minimizing triangulations) is that they are expensive to compute."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/gaborvalasek/status/2072751329672355857"
+author: "Gabor Valasek"
+handle: gaborvalasek
+post_id: "2072751329672355857"
+date: 2026-07-02
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack The problem with MWT (total edge-length minimizing triangulations) is that they are expensive to compute."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/gaborvalasek/status/2072751329672355857
+- Author: Gabor Valasek (@gaborvalasek)
+- Posted: 2026-07-02 18:36:41
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@gaborvalasek** ^2072751329672355857
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+The problem with MWT (total edge-length minimizing triangulations) is that they are expensive to compute. However, you can approximate them cheaply. We benchmarked the real, the approximation, and others against each other at EG: https://diglib.eg.org/handle/10.2312/egs20261028
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "Triangle ordering matters more than most realize."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/marcocc/status/2072719996208197952"
+author: "M.Camisani-Calzolari"
+handle: marcocc
+post_id: "2072719996208197952"
+date: 2026-07-02
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "Triangle ordering matters more than most realize."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/marcocc/status/2072719996208197952
+- Author: M.Camisani-Calzolari (@marcocc)
+- Posted: 2026-07-02 16:32:11
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@marcocc** ^2072719996208197952
+
+Triangle ordering matters more than most realize. I’ve seen teams optimize render queues only to watch performance tank because the GPU couldn’t cache context right. It’s not just count. it’s sequence, memory flow, how the shader pipeline breathes. We’re not painting pixels. We’re choreographing silicon. I broke this down here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43VmeoV6q3c
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack FYI I'm stealing this: \"having an optimization worldview means always noticing the tradeoffs.\""
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/1louder/status/2073042435341471792"
+author: "jason"
+handle: 1louder
+post_id: "2073042435341471792"
+date: 2026-07-03
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack FYI I'm stealing this: \"having an optimization worldview means always noticing the tradeoffs.\""
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/1louder/status/2073042435341471792
+- Author: jason (@1louder)
+- Posted: 2026-07-03 13:53:26
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@1louder** ^2073042435341471792
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+FYI I'm stealing this: "having an optimization worldview means always noticing the tradeoffs."
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack but they're cutting out circles inside circles, that's gonna be rough either way, better to draw the contents in a shader or have it be a different mesh ontop no?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/swengsbelike/status/2072908728270303733"
+author: "sugnerhan"
+handle: swengsbelike
+post_id: "2072908728270303733"
+date: 2026-07-03
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack but they're cutting out circles inside circles, that's gonna be rough either way, better to draw the contents in a shader or have it be a different mesh ontop no?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/swengsbelike/status/2072908728270303733
+- Author: sugnerhan (@swengsbelike)
+- Posted: 2026-07-03 05:02:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@swengsbelike** ^2072908728270303733
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+but they're cutting out circles inside circles, that's gonna be rough either way, better to draw the contents in a shader or have it be a different mesh ontop no?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,38 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Hey John, what happened to your local AI rack? Did you do something cool with it? Models are much more powerful these days."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MakeTechPtyLtd/status/2073366769465782677"
+author: "Make Tech"
+handle: MakeTechPtyLtd
+post_id: "2073366769465782677"
+date: 2026-07-04
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Hey John, what happened to your local AI rack? Did you do something cool with it? Models are much more powerful these days."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MakeTechPtyLtd/status/2073366769465782677
+- Author: Make Tech (@MakeTechPtyLtd)
+- Posted: 2026-07-04 11:22:13
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MakeTechPtyLtd** ^2073366769465782677
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Hey John, what happened to your local AI rack? Did you do something cool with it? Models are much more powerful these days. Also, I wonder if its gone up in value due to ram demand.
+-Ken
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack This is the part of the AI story that gets skipped: the models get the headlines, but someone still has to make the triangle order not suck."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AIwithFuture/status/2074128307755319429"
+author: "FutureWithAI"
+handle: AIwithFuture
+post_id: "2074128307755319429"
+date: 2026-07-06
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack This is the part of the AI story that gets skipped: the models get the headlines, but someone still has to make the triangle order not suck."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AIwithFuture/status/2074128307755319429
+- Author: FutureWithAI (@AIwithFuture)
+- Posted: 2026-07-06 13:48:18
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@AIwithFuture** ^2074128307755319429
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+This is the part of the AI story that gets skipped: the models get the headlines, but someone still has to make the triangle order not suck. Frontier labs need people who think at this level just as much as they need ML researchers.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at]]
@@ -0,0 +1,40 @@
+---
+title: "It isn’t the point of this project, but looking at the triangulations made me think about some GPU optimization esoterica."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/2072320234619355572"
+author: "John Carmack"
+handle: ID_AA_Carmack
+post_id: "2072320234619355572"
+date: 2026-07-01
+archived: 2026-08-28
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "It isn’t the point of this project, but looking at the triangulations made me think about some GPU optimization esoterica."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/2072320234619355572
+- Author: John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)
+- Posted: 2026-07-01 14:03:40
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^2072320234619355572
+
+It isn’t the point of this project, but looking at the triangulations made me think about some GPU optimization esoterica.
+
+Everyone knows “triangle count” has an impact on performance. Graphics programmers also know that the ordering of the triangles can also make a significant difference, and integrate mesh optimization tools.
+
+For the special case of planar figures like these, total triangle edge length can become the distinguishing performance characteristic. GPUs work with 2x2 blocks of pixels so they can generate derivatives for texture sampling and shaders. At triangle edges, they still usually have to do calculations for complete 2x2 blocks, regardless of whether 1,2,3, or 4 pixels in the block are actually needed. Long, skinny triangles can require over double the fragment shader invocations that area-maximizing triangles do.
+
+Consider triangulating a circle: the obvious way is to make a single triangle fan, but you can reduce the total edge length by inscribing a polygon inside the circle and only fanning out from that to the circle. Slightly more vertex work, but less fragment work.
+
+There probably isn’t any real world case where this would be a crucial optimization, but having an “optimization worldview” means always noticing the tradeoffs.
+
+Branches: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at/2026-07-01-marcospereeira-dont-you-think-gpus-are-going-to-be-running-the]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at/2026-07-01-sallubroz-love-this-way-of-thinking-performance-often-comes]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at/2026-07-01-NiclasJ-john-have-you-thought-about-to-apply-game-engine]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at/2026-07-01-0xV0LYX-underrated-part-of-gpu-optimization-triangle]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at/2026-07-01-samiannoesis-could-this-graphic-triangle-building-in-gpus-has]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2026-07-01-it-isnt-the-point-of-this-project-but-looking-at/2026-07-01-samiannoesis-inscribing-the-polygon-first-reduces-fragment]], 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