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+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Isn't that the responsibility of the hardware drivers, or are you proposing to have another layer between the hardware and the OS? Or perhaps it represents an aspect of the OS (Linux?) that is under-developed?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/K3n_5s/status/1457781020556599297"
+author: "Ken '@K3n5s on Bsky' 🌻"
+handle: K3n_5s
+post_id: "1457781020556599297"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Isn't that the responsibility of the hardware drivers, or are you proposing to have another layer between the hardware and the OS? Or perhaps it represents an aspect of the OS (Linux?) that is under-developed?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/K3n_5s/status/1457781020556599297
+- Author: Ken '@K3n5s on Bsky' 🌻 (@K3n_5s)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 18:44:14
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@K3n_5s** ^1457781020556599297
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Isn't that the responsibility of the hardware drivers, or are you proposing to have another layer between the hardware and the OS? Or perhaps it represents an aspect of the OS (Linux?) that is under-developed?
+
+**2/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1457781666949177352
+
+**@K3n_5s**
+
+The OS only provides abstractions for conventional hardware, accessed in conventional ways. I'm suggesting a thin / easy / fun layer over the actual interface protocol for arbitrary device development. Maybe some graduate to OS abstractions, but it wouldn't be necessary.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Isn't that more due to a lack of standardized low-level apis? Or the lack of interest from hardware producers to actually provide software developers with more than hardware specs?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/_MaxiTB/status/1457780478111469581"
+author: "MaxiTB"
+handle: _MaxiTB
+post_id: "1457780478111469581"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Isn't that more due to a lack of standardized low-level apis? Or the lack of interest from hardware producers to actually provide software developers with more than hardware specs?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/_MaxiTB/status/1457780478111469581
+- Author: MaxiTB (@_MaxiTB)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 18:42:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@_MaxiTB** ^1457780478111469581
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Isn't that more due to a lack of standardized low-level apis? Or the lack of interest from hardware producers to actually provide software developers with more than hardware specs?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Interesting recent development has been 'writing' hardware in Python, e.g."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/b1tcminerpljy/status/1457781649869991936"
+author: "Nelsoncoindigger"
+handle: b1tcminerpljy
+post_id: "1457781649869991936"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Interesting recent development has been 'writing' hardware in Python, e.g."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/b1tcminerpljy/status/1457781649869991936
+- Author: Nelsoncoindigger (@b1tcminerpljy)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 18:46:44
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@b1tcminerpljy** ^1457781649869991936
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Interesting recent development has been 'writing' hardware in Python, e.g. 'Migen', for FPGAs/ASICs instead of traditional VHDL/Verilog which are old & v. clunky.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack LibUSB exists and has even Python bindings."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/janoc200/status/1457804872816996359"
+author: "Jan Ciger (@janoc200@mstdn.social)"
+handle: janoc200
+post_id: "1457804872816996359"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack LibUSB exists and has even Python bindings."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/janoc200/status/1457804872816996359
+- Author: Jan Ciger (@janoc200@mstdn.social) (@janoc200)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 20:19:01
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@janoc200** ^1457804872816996359
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+LibUSB exists and has even Python bindings. PCIe is unlikely to be doable due to the required OS interfaces not being exposed to the userspace. And neither is going to be high performance if done through user space/Python.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Is libusb not the answer to talking to custom USB devices without all the effort of writing specific drivers?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/jfwfreo/status/1457795849577062417"
+author: "Jonathan Wilson"
+handle: jfwfreo
+post_id: "1457795849577062417"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Is libusb not the answer to talking to custom USB devices without all the effort of writing specific drivers?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/jfwfreo/status/1457795849577062417
+- Author: Jonathan Wilson (@jfwfreo)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 19:43:09
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@jfwfreo** ^1457795849577062417
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Is libusb not the answer to talking to custom USB devices without all the effort of writing specific drivers?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Have you seen http://cfu-playground.rtfd.io/ or https://workshop.fomu.im/ ?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/mithro/status/1457834348019806208"
+author: "Tim 'mithro' Ansell"
+handle: mithro
+post_id: "1457834348019806208"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Have you seen http://cfu-playground.rtfd.io/ or https://workshop.fomu.im/ ?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/mithro/status/1457834348019806208
+- Author: Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 22:16:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@mithro** ^1457834348019806208
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Have you seen http://cfu-playground.rtfd.io/ or https://workshop.fomu.im/ ?
+
+They show how an soft-CPU running on an FPGA can lead to all types of hardware+software co-optimization fun! It's really cool to be able to convert that hot loop into a new opcode on the fly....
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Spent the weekend learning V4L2 to do some video decoding on the Jetson Nano."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/thesammiller/status/1457780560777019397"
+author: "the sam miller"
+handle: thesammiller
+post_id: "1457780560777019397"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Spent the weekend learning V4L2 to do some video decoding on the Jetson Nano."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/thesammiller/status/1457780560777019397
+- Author: the sam miller (@thesammiller)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 18:42:24
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@thesammiller** ^1457780560777019397
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Spent the weekend learning V4L2 to do some video decoding on the Jetson Nano. The best documentation is a Nvidia unit test. Makes it a little tricky to implement in your own app.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack This sounds like a translation problem."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/acpopescu/status/1458051675051249668"
+author: "ACP"
+handle: acpopescu
+post_id: "1458051675051249668"
+date: 2021-11-09
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack This sounds like a translation problem."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/acpopescu/status/1458051675051249668
+- Author: ACP (@acpopescu)
+- Posted: 2021-11-09 12:39:43
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@acpopescu** ^1458051675051249668
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+This sounds like a translation problem. We know gow to do it with some interfaces, but not with others.
+
+Maybe one of these models, like copilot from github, or the likes of Megatron could propose a translation. And humans refine it.
+
+Trouble is, there is no data :(
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack This is (slowly) becoming fun! Want to join the party? :)"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/enjoy_digital/status/1458026504865173506"
+author: "Enjoy Digital"
+handle: enjoy_digital
+post_id: "1458026504865173506"
+date: 2021-11-09
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack This is (slowly) becoming fun! Want to join the party? :)"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/enjoy_digital/status/1458026504865173506
+- Author: Enjoy Digital (@enjoy_digital)
+- Posted: 2021-11-09 10:59:42
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@enjoy_digital** ^1458026504865173506
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+This is (slowly) becoming fun! Want to join the party? :)
+https://x.com/enjoy_digital/status/1450037624446586883
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Since libusb has already been mentioned, but not the pcie equivalent, you're looking for VFIO."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/mm0zct/status/1457892163220647937"
+author: "mm0zct"
+handle: mm0zct
+post_id: "1457892163220647937"
+date: 2021-11-09
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Since libusb has already been mentioned, but not the pcie equivalent, you're looking for VFIO."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/mm0zct/status/1457892163220647937
+- Author: mm0zct (@mm0zct)
+- Posted: 2021-11-09 02:05:52
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@mm0zct** ^1457892163220647937
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Since libusb has already been mentioned, but not the pcie equivalent, you're looking for VFIO. Let's you map pcie BARS into userspace and also set up the pcie dma translations so the endpoint can directly access your userspace memory buffers. Happy to elaborate :-)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "@ID_AA_Carmack Serial-over-USB is a common one for scientific equipment."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/stephenjbrooks/status/1457891644494295044"
+author: "Stephen Brooks 🦆"
+handle: stephenjbrooks
+post_id: "1457891644494295044"
+date: 2021-11-09
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "@ID_AA_Carmack Serial-over-USB is a common one for scientific equipment."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1457779240980520963"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/stephenjbrooks/status/1457891644494295044
+- Author: Stephen Brooks 🦆 (@stephenjbrooks)
+- Posted: 2021-11-09 02:03:49
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@stephenjbrooks** ^1457891644494295044
+
+**@ID_AA_Carmack**
+
+Serial-over-USB is a common one for scientific equipment.  Also just ethernet (using libcurl to get a webpage with the data!)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
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+---
+title: "The software side of dealing with custom hardware is unpleasant, and a drain on building it and exploiting it when completed."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1457779239004999694"
+author: "John Carmack"
+handle: ID_AA_Carmack
+post_id: "1457779239004999694"
+date: 2021-11-08
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - ID_AA_Carmack
+description: "The software side of dealing with custom hardware is unpleasant, and a drain on building it and exploiting it when completed."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1457779239004999694
+- Author: John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)
+- Posted: 2021-11-08 18:37:09
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1457779239004999694
+
+The software side of dealing with custom hardware is unpleasant, and a drain on building it and exploiting it when completed. I suspect there would be a useful boost in innovation if there was a library that made it trivial to write one-page C and Python programs that could do \
+
+**2/** **@ID_AA_Carmack** ^1457779240980520963
+
+high performance interfacing with arbitrary USB and PCIe hardware.  You can obviously get it done with existing interfaces, but it isn't fun, and the loss due to friction in a many-user world is often surprisingly large.
+
+Branches: [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-_MaxiTB-isnt-that-more-due-to-a-lack-of-standardized-low]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-thesammiller-spent-the-weekend-learning-v4l2-to-do-some-video]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-K3n_5s-isnt-that-the-responsibility-of-the-hardware]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-b1tcminerpljy-interesting-recent-development-has-been-writing]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-jfwfreo-is-libusb-not-the-answer-to-talking-to-custom-usb]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-janoc200-libusb-exists-and-has-even-python-bindings-pcie]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-08-mithro-have-you-seen-http-cfu-playground-rtfd-io-or]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-09-stephenjbrooks-serial-over-usb-is-a-common-one-for-scientific]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-09-mm0zct-since-libusb-has-already-been-mentioned-but-not]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-09-enjoy_digital-this-is-slowly-becoming-fun-want-to-join-the]], [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware/2021-11-09-acpopescu-this-sounds-like-a-translation-problem-we-know]]
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ tags:
 ---

 - [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-07-08-webusb-sure-sounds-like-scope-creep]]
+- [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2021-11-08-the-software-side-of-dealing-with-custom-hardware]]
 - [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2022-01-03-when-unity-and-unreal-package-textures-and]]
 - [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2022-01-27-address-space-randomization-is-a-security-feature]]
 - [[archive/threads/ID_AA_Carmack/2023-02-11-row-column-major-should-have-been-termed-row]]
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+---
+title: "@fchollet Yes, but LayerStand just doesn't have the same ring as LayerNorm"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/KevinIndrebo/status/1627819579530702848"
+author: "Kevin Indrebo"
+handle: KevinIndrebo
+post_id: "1627819579530702848"
+date: 2023-02-20
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+description: "@fchollet Yes, but LayerStand just doesn't have the same ring as LayerNorm"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1627818199311069184"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/KevinIndrebo/status/1627819579530702848
+- Author: Kevin Indrebo (@KevinIndrebo)
+- Posted: 2023-02-20 23:56:45
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@KevinIndrebo** ^1627819579530702848
+
+**@fchollet**
+
+Yes, but LayerStand just doesn't have the same ring as LayerNorm
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined]]
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+---
+title: "@fchollet Yes, it was indeed confusing."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MinhaHwang/status/1627818762211823616"
+author: "Minha Hwang"
+handle: MinhaHwang
+post_id: "1627818762211823616"
+date: 2023-02-20
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+description: "@fchollet Yes, it was indeed confusing."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1627818199311069184"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MinhaHwang/status/1627818762211823616
+- Author: Minha Hwang (@MinhaHwang)
+- Posted: 2023-02-20 23:53:30
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MinhaHwang** ^1627818762211823616
+
+**@fchollet**
+
+Yes, it was indeed confusing.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined]]
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+---
+title: "@fchollet normalization is only when it fits inside the range [0,1]?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/connormcmk/status/1627818528811384833"
+author: "Connor McCormick"
+handle: connormcmk
+post_id: "1627818528811384833"
+date: 2023-02-20
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+description: "@fchollet normalization is only when it fits inside the range [0,1]?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1627818199311069184"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/connormcmk/status/1627818528811384833
+- Author: Connor McCormick (@connormcmk)
+- Posted: 2023-02-20 23:52:35
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@connormcmk** ^1627818528811384833
+
+**@fchollet**
+
+normalization is only when it fits inside the range [0,1]?
+
+did not know this
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@fchollet You've answered a question I've had for a while, thanks"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/lewisbowes/status/1627819371522404352"
+author: "Lewis Bowes"
+handle: lewisbowes
+post_id: "1627819371522404352"
+date: 2023-02-20
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+description: "@fchollet You've answered a question I've had for a while, thanks"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1627818199311069184"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/lewisbowes/status/1627819371522404352
+- Author: Lewis Bowes (@lewisbowes)
+- Posted: 2023-02-20 23:55:56
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@lewisbowes** ^1627819371522404352
+
+**@fchollet**
+
+You've answered a question I've had for a while, thanks
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@fchollet Me: *Trying to resist the urge of invoking a book that has become a meme for symbolizing truth being diluted in a dystopian society using a math equation as the primary example, despite it feeling poetically relevant when discussing machines that spew both truth & lies*"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/stealcase/status/1627979033609641984"
+author: "Benjamin (leaving for 🦋@benjami.no)"
+handle: stealcase
+post_id: "1627979033609641984"
+date: 2023-02-21
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+description: "@fchollet Me: *Trying to resist the urge of invoking a book that has become a meme for symbolizing truth being diluted in a dystopian society using a math equation as the primary example, despite it feeling poetically relevant when discussing machines that spew both truth & lies*"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1627818199311069184"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/stealcase/status/1627979033609641984
+- Author: Benjamin (leaving for 🦋@benjami.no) (@stealcase)
+- Posted: 2023-02-21 10:30:22
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@stealcase** ^1627979033609641984
+
+**@fchollet**
+
+Me: *Trying to resist the urge of invoking a book that has become a meme for symbolizing truth being diluted in a dystopian society using a math equation as the primary example, despite it feeling poetically relevant when discussing machines that spew both truth & lies*
+
+<video controls src="https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/Fpe-S1uWYAEwDoz.mp4"></video>
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined]]
@@ -0,0 +1,40 @@
+---
+title: "True -- deep learning folks even redefined \"normalization\" (of vectors) to mean \"standardization\", instead of the actual definition of \"make it unit-norm\"..."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/fchollet/status/1627816100972068866"
+author: "François Chollet"
+handle: fchollet
+post_id: "1627816100972068866"
+date: 2023-02-20
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+description: "True -- deep learning folks even redefined \"normalization\" (of vectors) to mean \"standardization\", instead of the actual definition of \"make it unit-norm\"..."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/fchollet/status/1627816100972068866
+- Author: François Chollet (@fchollet)
+- Posted: 2023-02-20 23:42:56
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@fchollet** ^1627816100972068866
+
+True -- deep learning folks even redefined "normalization" (of vectors) to mean "standardization", instead of the actual definition of "make it unit-norm"... which is wild
+
+**2/** **@fchollet** ^1627816575884734465
+
+Even math isn't safe from semantic takeover
+
+**3/** **@fchollet** ^1627818199311069184
+
+For those who don't know what I'm talking about: deep learning includes well-known techniques named "batch normalization", "layer normalization", "group normalization", etc. which all refer to standardization rather than normalization.
+
+Branches: [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined/2023-02-20-connormcmk-normalization-is-only-when-it-fits-inside-the]], [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined/2023-02-20-MinhaHwang-yes-it-was-indeed-confusing]], [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined/2023-02-20-lewisbowes-youve-answered-a-question-ive-had-for-a-while]], [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined/2023-02-20-KevinIndrebo-yes-but-layerstand-just-doesnt-have-the-same-ring]], [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined/2023-02-21-stealcase-me-trying-to-resist-the-urge-of-invoking-a-book]]
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+---
+title: fchollet
+type: note
+draft: false
+description: Archived threads by fchollet.
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - fchollet
+---
+
+- [[archive/threads/fchollet/2023-02-20-true-deep-learning-folks-even-redefined]]
@@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ Example of the note shape (single spine, no branches): [[archive/threads/How to
 - [[archive/threads/Dispatch_Graph]]
 - [[archive/threads/EricLengyel]]
 - [[archive/threads/eshear]]
+- [[archive/threads/fchollet]]
 - [[archive/threads/FFmpeg]]
 - [[archive/threads/fiigii]]
 - [[archive/threads/flowerornament]]
@@ -83,6 +84,7 @@ Example of the note shape (single spine, no branches): [[archive/threads/How to
 - [[archive/threads/sh4forever]]
 - [[archive/threads/SheriefFYI]]
 - [[archive/threads/simplex_fx]]
+- [[archive/threads/skdh]]
 - [[archive/threads/TheAllenChou]]
 - [[archive/threads/TheGingerBill]]
 - [[archive/threads/ThePrimeagen]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh So who approves of those releases?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/BendlerBlogger/status/1626971574959067141"
+author: "Sascha „jeton paraşütle düşüyor“ Stoltenow"
+handle: BendlerBlogger
+post_id: "1626971574959067141"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh So who approves of those releases?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/BendlerBlogger/status/1626971574959067141
+- Author: Sascha „jeton paraşütle düşüyor“ Stoltenow (@BendlerBlogger)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 15:47:05
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@BendlerBlogger** ^1626971574959067141
+
+**@skdh**
+
+So who approves of those releases?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh Science communication is probably a tough cookie to crack."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/BigwetRealism/status/1626994144085217280"
+author: "h index enjoyer"
+handle: BigwetRealism
+post_id: "1626994144085217280"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Science communication is probably a tough cookie to crack."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/BigwetRealism/status/1626994144085217280
+- Author: h index enjoyer (@BigwetRealism)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 17:16:46
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@BigwetRealism** ^1626994144085217280
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Science communication is probably a tough cookie to crack. You need to make money by generating clicks (misleading headlines) but you also wanna remain true to the science (often requires specific word choice).
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh Thank you for the work you do."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Burchoff/status/1626931737463758850"
+author: "Jason Birchoff"
+handle: Burchoff
+post_id: "1626931737463758850"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Thank you for the work you do."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Burchoff/status/1626931737463758850
+- Author: Jason Birchoff (@Burchoff)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 13:08:47
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Burchoff** ^1626931737463758850
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Thank you for the work you do.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh To you have a sense about what the incentives are here that have lead to this equilibrium?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/GordonBrianR/status/1627021104593403904"
+author: "Brian Gordon"
+handle: GordonBrianR
+post_id: "1627021104593403904"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh To you have a sense about what the incentives are here that have lead to this equilibrium?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/GordonBrianR/status/1627021104593403904
+- Author: Brian Gordon (@GordonBrianR)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 19:03:54
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@GordonBrianR** ^1627021104593403904
+
+**@skdh**
+
+To you have a sense about what the incentives are here that have lead to this equilibrium?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh Is there a way to attach “sources” link to your YT episodes? If there is and you already do, where do I find them? "
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/KhrisWithAc/status/1626934020457082881"
+author: "Chris 🚀📈💰"
+handle: KhrisWithAc
+post_id: "1626934020457082881"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Is there a way to attach “sources” link to your YT episodes? If there is and you already do, where do I find them? "
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/KhrisWithAc/status/1626934020457082881
+- Author: Chris 🚀📈💰 (@KhrisWithAc)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 13:17:52
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@KhrisWithAc** ^1626934020457082881
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Is there a way to attach “sources” link to your YT episodes? If there is and you already do, where do I find them? 
+
+*apologies, Im not Social media savvy*
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh All reporting is hard, there used to be an understanding that powerful people/academics lie and the job of the reporter was to fact-check things like press releases by contacting other members of the field! Now the media are stenographers not reporters!"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/benjmakesmovies/status/1626855830233415681"
+author: "Benjamin Gilbert-Lif"
+handle: benjmakesmovies
+post_id: "1626855830233415681"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh All reporting is hard, there used to be an understanding that powerful people/academics lie and the job of the reporter was to fact-check things like press releases by contacting other members of the field! Now the media are stenographers not reporters!"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/benjmakesmovies/status/1626855830233415681
+- Author: Benjamin Gilbert-Lif (@benjmakesmovies)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 08:07:10
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@benjmakesmovies** ^1626855830233415681
+
+**@skdh**
+
+All reporting is hard, there used to be an understanding that powerful people/academics lie and the job of the reporter was to fact-check things like press releases by contacting other members of the field! Now the media are stenographers not reporters!
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh You almost got it! Have you read „Manufacturing Consent“ by Noam Chomsky? It’s not exactly about science publications, but it reveals a bunch of mechanisms that make the press even worse then you now know it is (at least I hope you extrapolate your findings to press in general)"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/comradeKangaroo/status/1626894517092728832"
+author: "Markus Kasperczyk 🇩🇪"
+handle: comradeKangaroo
+post_id: "1626894517092728832"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh You almost got it! Have you read „Manufacturing Consent“ by Noam Chomsky? It’s not exactly about science publications, but it reveals a bunch of mechanisms that make the press even worse then you now know it is (at least I hope you extrapolate your findings to press in general)"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/comradeKangaroo/status/1626894517092728832
+- Author: Markus Kasperczyk 🇩🇪 (@comradeKangaroo)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 10:40:53
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@comradeKangaroo** ^1626894517092728832
+
+**@skdh**
+
+You almost got it! Have you read „Manufacturing Consent“ by Noam Chomsky? It’s not exactly about science publications, but it reveals a bunch of mechanisms that make the press even worse then you now know it is (at least I hope you extrapolate your findings to press in general)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh A useful rule of thumb is to assume that general news reporters lose 10 IQ points when reporting on scientific topics."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/efagirard/status/1626930765333245954"
+author: "Edward Girard"
+handle: efagirard
+post_id: "1626930765333245954"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh A useful rule of thumb is to assume that general news reporters lose 10 IQ points when reporting on scientific topics."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/efagirard/status/1626930765333245954
+- Author: Edward Girard (@efagirard)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 13:04:56
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@efagirard** ^1626930765333245954
+
+**@skdh**
+
+A useful rule of thumb is to assume that general news reporters lose 10 IQ points when reporting on scientific topics.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh University PR blurbs on research conducted at them are often seem to have been produced by the Creative Writing Dept."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/hartreefox/status/1626919788839636993"
+author: "Kyle Webb"
+handle: hartreefox
+post_id: "1626919788839636993"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh University PR blurbs on research conducted at them are often seem to have been produced by the Creative Writing Dept."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/hartreefox/status/1626919788839636993
+- Author: Kyle Webb (@hartreefox)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 12:21:19
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@hartreefox** ^1626919788839636993
+
+**@skdh**
+
+University PR blurbs on research conducted at them are often seem to have been produced by the Creative Writing Dept.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh Even Ole Roemer did face the weak press release about his discovery 1676 of the finit light speed by yearlong observing Jupiter moons."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/kepleruhr/status/1626879714596909058"
+author: "Kurt Niel"
+handle: kepleruhr
+post_id: "1626879714596909058"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Even Ole Roemer did face the weak press release about his discovery 1676 of the finit light speed by yearlong observing Jupiter moons."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/kepleruhr/status/1626879714596909058
+- Author: Kurt Niel (@kepleruhr)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 09:42:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@kepleruhr** ^1626879714596909058
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Even Ole Roemer did face the weak press release about his discovery 1676 of the finit light speed by yearlong observing Jupiter moons. It took years for gettig an interest/response from the scientific community. The reporter did not have a glue what he as writing about.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh Where is this feed of news not fit for The News? 🧟‍♂️"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sneakin/status/1626880915518459905"
+author: "Nolan 🚀👉❤ :/ ⛄!"
+handle: sneakin
+post_id: "1626880915518459905"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Where is this feed of news not fit for The News? 🧟‍♂️"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sneakin/status/1626880915518459905
+- Author: Nolan 🚀👉❤ :/ ⛄! (@sneakin)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 09:46:50
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@sneakin** ^1626880915518459905
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Where is this feed of news not fit for The News? 🧟‍♂️
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh I think the same is true for \"studies\"."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/streetsofboston/status/1626965379909050368"
+author: "Anton Spaans @streetsofboston@androiddev.social"
+handle: streetsofboston
+post_id: "1626965379909050368"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh I think the same is true for \"studies\"."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/streetsofboston/status/1626965379909050368
+- Author: Anton Spaans @streetsofboston@androiddev.social (@streetsofboston)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 15:22:28
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@streetsofboston** ^1626965379909050368
+
+**@skdh**
+
+I think the same is true for "studies".
+
+When a press release, a news article, says "A study shows....", better to ignore it. Either the results a misunderstood or the study is just one done on a very small sample, an outlier (outliers tend to be juicier, get more eyeballs).
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@skdh resuming, the problem is between science and journalism, mainly the chief editor's dismissive care for their science journalist."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AmdredLambda/status/1627334310364577793"
+author: "🇺🇦 🐦 🇮🇱 Jose Pereira © 🇺🇸 🐳 🏳️‍🌈"
+handle: AmdredLambda
+post_id: "1627334310364577793"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh resuming, the problem is between science and journalism, mainly the chief editor's dismissive care for their science journalist."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AmdredLambda/status/1627334310364577793
+- Author: 🇺🇦 🐦 🇮🇱 Jose Pereira © 🇺🇸 🐳 🏳️‍🌈 (@AmdredLambda)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 15:48:28
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@AmdredLambda** ^1627334310364577793
+
+**@skdh**
+
+resuming, the problem is between science and journalism, mainly the chief editor's dismissive care for their science journalist. Science journalism requires ethics, and fundamental knowledge far deeper than mere gossip. Editorial houses most have, and demand respect for science.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh Why you don't get more attention than NDT I'll never understand"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/DanzigSaraiya/status/1627387118312910849"
+author: "barkoff"
+handle: DanzigSaraiya
+post_id: "1627387118312910849"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Why you don't get more attention than NDT I'll never understand"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/DanzigSaraiya/status/1627387118312910849
+- Author: barkoff (@DanzigSaraiya)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 19:18:19
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@DanzigSaraiya** ^1627387118312910849
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Why you don't get more attention than NDT I'll never understand
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh I watch your YouTube channel and I respect the work you do and you are certainly erudite but you still believe that CO2 is causing climate change and that wind and solar will actually work."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/FartInTheHat/status/1627132757074747393"
+author: "FartInTheHat"
+handle: FartInTheHat
+post_id: "1627132757074747393"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh I watch your YouTube channel and I respect the work you do and you are certainly erudite but you still believe that CO2 is causing climate change and that wind and solar will actually work."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/FartInTheHat/status/1627132757074747393
+- Author: FartInTheHat (@FartInTheHat)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 02:27:34
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@FartInTheHat** ^1627132757074747393
+
+**@skdh**
+
+I watch your YouTube channel and I respect the work you do and you are certainly erudite but you still believe that CO2 is causing climate change and that wind and solar will actually work. Isn't that right? Where do you get your 'facts' about those?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh You do a good job though."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/PeterFaberSP/status/1627181867714617345"
+author: "Peter Faber"
+handle: PeterFaberSP
+post_id: "1627181867714617345"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh You do a good job though."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/PeterFaberSP/status/1627181867714617345
+- Author: Peter Faber (@PeterFaberSP)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 05:42:43
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@PeterFaberSP** ^1627181867714617345
+
+**@skdh**
+
+You do a good job though.
+
+Do you have a team working for you or do you do everything yourself?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh To quote the Movie The Right Stuff, “without bucks, no Buck Rogers”."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/SuperfancyJames/status/1627379015660224512"
+author: "James"
+handle: SuperfancyJames
+post_id: "1627379015660224512"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh To quote the Movie The Right Stuff, “without bucks, no Buck Rogers”."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/SuperfancyJames/status/1627379015660224512
+- Author: James (@SuperfancyJames)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 18:46:07
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@SuperfancyJames** ^1627379015660224512
+
+**@skdh**
+
+To quote the Movie The Right Stuff, “without bucks, no Buck Rogers”. The fact researchers have to justify their jobs, meant this was inevitable.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh Q."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/TedMoondust/status/1627323283430572032"
+author: "Ted Moondust"
+handle: TedMoondust
+post_id: "1627323283430572032"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Q."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/TedMoondust/status/1627323283430572032
+- Author: Ted Moondust (@TedMoondust)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 15:04:39
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@TedMoondust** ^1627323283430572032
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Q. What is the ultimate purpose of a typical university press release? Cui bono? Is the eventual goal the securing of more funding?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh That says a lot about a lot."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/WikiFever/status/1627114683990962177"
+author: "Grizzly"
+handle: WikiFever
+post_id: "1627114683990962177"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh That says a lot about a lot."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/WikiFever/status/1627114683990962177
+- Author: Grizzly (@WikiFever)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 01:15:45
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@WikiFever** ^1627114683990962177
+
+**@skdh**
+
+That says a lot about a lot.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh Hang in there - this is really important stuff."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/gardenbev/status/1627428329413378058"
+author: "garden bev"
+handle: gardenbev
+post_id: "1627428329413378058"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh Hang in there - this is really important stuff."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/gardenbev/status/1627428329413378058
+- Author: garden bev (@gardenbev)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 22:02:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@gardenbev** ^1627428329413378058
+
+**@skdh**
+
+Hang in there - this is really important stuff. Yes, one can think of press releases as basically commercials and go from there. Signed, old lady retired doc.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh From my experience, the people who write the press releases have no knowledge of the field, and the scientists whose papers lead to press releases are usually not too concerned with that"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/m_newman/status/1627312580229480449"
+author: "m_newman"
+handle: m_newman
+post_id: "1627312580229480449"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh From my experience, the people who write the press releases have no knowledge of the field, and the scientists whose papers lead to press releases are usually not too concerned with that"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/m_newman/status/1627312580229480449
+- Author: m_newman (@m_newman)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 14:22:07
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@m_newman** ^1627312580229480449
+
+**@skdh**
+
+From my experience, the people who write the press releases have no knowledge of the field, and the scientists whose papers lead to press releases are usually not too concerned with that
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh This is most problematic in physics."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/nathanaelmelia/status/1627423158994358272"
+author: "𝘿𝙧 𝙉𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙖𝙚𝙡 𝙈𝙚𝙡𝙞𝙖"
+handle: nathanaelmelia
+post_id: "1627423158994358272"
+date: 2023-02-19
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh This is most problematic in physics."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/nathanaelmelia/status/1627423158994358272
+- Author: 𝘿𝙧 𝙉𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙖𝙚𝙡 𝙈𝙚𝙡𝙞𝙖 (@nathanaelmelia)
+- Posted: 2023-02-19 21:41:31
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@nathanaelmelia** ^1627423158994358272
+
+**@skdh**
+
+This is most problematic in physics. There is an obsession to make physics sexy thanks to the celebrity status of some. Most scientists don't understand the physics in these niche papers, let alone the general audience. So, science is betrayed to invent a compelling narrative.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh The first aim of a press release is to get journalistic attention."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/design_corinne/status/1627604781047992321"
+author: "Corinne Pritchard"
+handle: design_corinne
+post_id: "1627604781047992321"
+date: 2023-02-20
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh The first aim of a press release is to get journalistic attention."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/design_corinne/status/1627604781047992321
+- Author: Corinne Pritchard (@design_corinne)
+- Posted: 2023-02-20 09:43:13
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@design_corinne** ^1627604781047992321
+
+**@skdh**
+
+The first aim of a press release is to get journalistic attention. Most journalists give the actual science the bare minimum of scrutiny, & newspapers only run it if the science can be boiled down to a simple metaphor. The cycle informs future press releases, and so ad infinitum.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "@skdh My ex went through an entire grad program for science/math/environmental journalism, thankfully he does more magazine-style stuff for the CA university system, not press releases"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/acryland/status/1638658093012733958"
+author: "mourning the death of winter #CeaseFireInGazaNow"
+handle: acryland
+post_id: "1638658093012733958"
+date: 2023-03-22
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "@skdh My ex went through an entire grad program for science/math/environmental journalism, thankfully he does more magazine-style stuff for the CA university system, not press releases"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1626853352406491136"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/acryland/status/1638658093012733958
+- Author: mourning the death of winter #CeaseFireInGazaNow (@acryland)
+- Posted: 2023-03-22 21:45:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@acryland** ^1638658093012733958
+
+**@skdh**
+
+My ex went through an entire grad program for science/math/environmental journalism, thankfully he does more magazine-style stuff for the CA university system, not press releases
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]
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+---
+title: "I've been doing my weekly Science News for about 4 months now."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/skdh/status/1626847652989095937"
+author: "Sabine Hossenfelder"
+handle: skdh
+post_id: "1626847652989095937"
+date: 2023-02-18
+archived: 2026-08-29
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+description: "I've been doing my weekly Science News for about 4 months now."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/skdh/status/1626847652989095937
+- Author: Sabine Hossenfelder (@skdh)
+- Posted: 2023-02-18 07:34:40
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@skdh** ^1626847652989095937
+
+I've been doing my weekly Science News for about 4 months now. I have literally read thousands of press releases to that end. The major insight that I have taken away from this is to never, ever, trust a press release.
+
+**2/** **@skdh** ^1626848097958518784
+
+I kind of knew this already in the sense that in cases when I've traced down the origin of a bad headline most often it came from a press release. But I usually don't read press releases right from the bottle, so to speak, I've only started doing this last year.
+
+**3/** **@skdh** ^1626848924387446784
+
+It's actually far worse than I expected. Most press releases are extremely bad examples of science writing. Like, if I had to grade them, most of them would get an E or F. This starts with idiotic headlines that don't tell you what the research is about.
+
+**4/** **@skdh** ^1626849869888466945
+
+But the biggest problem is that they lack context. For the most part they overstate what's new and don't tell you what previous work has been done, they don't tell you the bigger context. Basically 80% of press releases don't need to exist.
+
+**5/** **@skdh** ^1626850884888952832
+
+Many of them are so misleadingly written you can't even blame writers for misunderstanding them. The recent story about the Earth's rotation having stopped or reversing was a typical example.
+
+**6/** **@skdh** ^1626851190758682624
+
+You actually had to look at the damned paper and try to figure out what they mean by "differential rotation". It wasn't explained in the paper either, presumably because everyone who works in the field knows it.
+
+**7/** **@skdh** ^1626852418045575168
+
+Similar story with the recent "first link" between quantum chips that wasn't a first. I could go on for some while with examples of this type. The issue now is that 95% of science news outlets just repeat the press release. There's zero new information in there.
+
+**8/** **@skdh** ^1626852986906370048
+
+And you know I have a lot of understanding for that. I could save myself a LOT of work (and money) by just taking the press release and reading it off. I'd be wrong more often than not, but I could claim it isn't my fault, I got it from the press release!
+
+**9/** **@skdh** ^1626853352406491136
+
+In any case, I guess the brief summary is that science reporting isn't as easy as it looks.
+
+Branches: [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-benjmakesmovies-all-reporting-is-hard-there-used-to-be-an]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-kepleruhr-even-ole-roemer-did-face-the-weak-press-release]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-sneakin-where-is-this-feed-of-news-not-fit-for-the-news]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-comradeKangaroo-you-almost-got-it-have-you-read-manufacturing]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-hartreefox-university-pr-blurbs-on-research-conducted-at]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-efagirard-a-useful-rule-of-thumb-is-to-assume-that-general]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-Burchoff-thank-you-for-the-work-you-do]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-KhrisWithAc-is-there-a-way-to-attach-sources-link-to-your-yt]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-streetsofboston-i-think-the-same-is-true-for-studies-when-a-press]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-BendlerBlogger-so-who-approves-of-those-releases]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-BigwetRealism-science-communication-is-probably-a-tough-cookie]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-18-GordonBrianR-to-you-have-a-sense-about-what-the-incentives-are]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-WikiFever-that-says-a-lot-about-a-lot]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-FartInTheHat-i-watch-your-youtube-channel-and-i-respect-the]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-PeterFaberSP-you-do-a-good-job-though-do-you-have-a-team]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-m_newman-from-my-experience-the-people-who-write-the-press]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-TedMoondust-q-what-is-the-ultimate-purpose-of-a-typical]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-AmdredLambda-resuming-the-problem-is-between-science-and]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-SuperfancyJames-to-quote-the-movie-the-right-stuff-without-bucks]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-DanzigSaraiya-why-you-dont-get-more-attention-than-ndt-ill]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-nathanaelmelia-this-is-most-problematic-in-physics-there-is-an]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-19-gardenbev-hang-in-there-this-is-really-important-stuff-yes]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-02-20-design_corinne-the-first-aim-of-a-press-release-is-to-get]], [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4/2023-03-22-acryland-my-ex-went-through-an-entire-grad-program-for]]
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+---
+title: skdh
+type: note
+draft: false
+description: Archived threads by skdh.
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - skdh
+---
+
+- [[archive/threads/skdh/2023-02-18-ive-been-doing-my-weekly-science-news-for-about-4]]