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+title: "@kenpex Indeed."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/streleav/status/1650915682136240129"
+author: "Sean Treleaven"
+handle: streleav
+post_id: "1650915682136240129"
+date: 2023-04-25
+archived: 2026-08-24
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - kenpex
+description: "@kenpex Indeed."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1650678968255913985"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/streleav/status/1650915682136240129
+- Author: Sean Treleaven (@streleav)
+- Posted: 2023-04-25 17:32:25
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@kenpex Indeed. Any thoughts on how AGI could help the situation?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/kenpex/2023-04-25-nerds-are-crazy-https-git-sr-ht-vdupras-duskos]]
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+---
+title: "@kenpex I was curious about what it would take to recreate today’s tech “from scratch” if a giant EMP went off."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ChristerEricson/status/1651086935467917312"
+author: "🙊Christer Ericson"
+handle: ChristerEricson
+post_id: "1651086935467917312"
+date: 2023-04-26
+archived: 2026-08-24
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - kenpex
+description: "@kenpex I was curious about what it would take to recreate today’s tech “from scratch” if a giant EMP went off."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1650678968255913985"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ChristerEricson/status/1651086935467917312
+- Author: 🙊Christer Ericson (@ChristerEricson)
+- Posted: 2023-04-26 04:52:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@kenpex I was curious about what it would take to recreate today’s tech “from scratch” if a giant EMP went off. It’s clearly a crazy number of bootstrap steps needed.
+
+It took me to this book, which doesn’t answer my Q but a related Q. Fascinating, but oh so depressing.
+
+No EMPs pls!
+
+![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FunW0KyaYAAPSv1?format=jpg&name=orig)
+
+**2/**
+
+@ChristerEricson Reminds me of when people used/could to write engines from scratch at every new game/project. Perhaps it's the best way to improve though.
+
+**3/**
+
+@kenpex @ChristerEricson There's an anime series called 7 seeds, where civ ends due to predicted meteorite shower. Each gov selects a bunch of people based on their knowledge, including trained guides, in an attempt to repopulate earth in the aftermath.......and not one of them, knew Forth......amateurs!
+
+**4/**
+
+@npatsiouras @kenpex Don’t get me wrong, I have fondness for Forth, but if my generation had grown up on Forth instead of Basic, I suspect this would be our world today.
+
+![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FutX-exaMAAag8N?format=jpg&name=orig)
+
+**5/**
+
+@npatsiouras @kenpex Also, it “almost” happened. One of my friends had one of these:
+
+![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FutYySWaEAEU5se?format=jpg&name=orig)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/kenpex/2023-04-25-nerds-are-crazy-https-git-sr-ht-vdupras-duskos]]
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+---
+title: "@kenpex This is actually a fantastic project though."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ErikHaliewicz/status/1651295755293036544"
+author: "Erik Haliewicz"
+handle: ErikHaliewicz
+post_id: "1651295755293036544"
+date: 2023-04-26
+archived: 2026-08-24
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - kenpex
+description: "@kenpex This is actually a fantastic project though."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1650678968255913985"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ErikHaliewicz/status/1651295755293036544
+- Author: Erik Haliewicz (@ErikHaliewicz)
+- Posted: 2023-04-26 18:42:42
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@kenpex This is actually a fantastic project though.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/kenpex/2023-04-25-nerds-are-crazy-https-git-sr-ht-vdupras-duskos]]
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+---
+title: "@kenpex Some people have too much time for hobby projects."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/SebAaltonen/status/1651168030557077504"
+author: "Sebastian Aaltonen"
+handle: SebAaltonen
+post_id: "1651168030557077504"
+date: 2023-04-26
+archived: 2026-08-24
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - kenpex
+description: "@kenpex Some people have too much time for hobby projects."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1650678968255913985"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/SebAaltonen/status/1651168030557077504
+- Author: Sebastian Aaltonen (@SebAaltonen)
+- Posted: 2023-04-26 10:15:10
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@kenpex Some people have too much time for hobby projects.
+
+**2/**
+
+@SebAaltonen @kenpex Where else can someone learn Forth nowadays?
+
+Would place Forth knowledge above C++ in an interview, shows an understanding of a live coded programmable compiler bootstrapped from assembly.
+
+These are the people you want to help break tradition. They see the schlep, if you will.
+
+**3/**
+
+@Lambda_Coder @SebAaltonen I wouldn't. Forth today is hyper-niche, and even the programming model it teaches you about is. Lastly, the best way to learn forth is probably to make your own forth.
+
+**4/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen What of the distinction between Forth the syntactic language and the semantic programming model?
+
+The way I see modern software, an insane amount of tooling and scaffolding is maintained to achieve what Forth and Lisp had emerging from their architecture. And usually not reusable
+
+**5/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen The fact that the model is obscure should turn it into a superpower.
+
+I'd agree for an existing company it would be a risk, but for a startup its how you end up running circles around the competition.
+
+Not forth/lisp themselves, but adapting their models with modern hindsights.
+
+**6/**
+
+@Lambda_Coder @SebAaltonen I doubt it. I doubt that languages or paradigms make any difference in practice (never saw any study showing significant advantages). And the lisp paradigm is in my opinion, niche for reasonable reasons. In general, the lack of strong semantics is a liability, not a strength.
+
+**7/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen What if there existed a way to get the live coding, programmable programming of Lisp/Forth, scale it to support AAA game engines, and keep most modern PLT developments in the process?
+
+I agree languages and paradigms are compile-time concerns and as such make the runtime complex.
+
+**8/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen Its no different than a game engine moving from one scene to the next; a few layers of abstraction deeper.
+
+Level designers would go insane having to reboot the editor between each change, yet when it comes to code it seems a perfectly normal thing to do.
+
+I want this to change.
+
+**9/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen I also appreciate how weird and niche this position is.
+
+It's one of these situations where the thing is already executing in my mind, but translating this to software and everyday terms is another story.
+
+**10/**
+
+@Lambda_Coder @SebAaltonen Live-coding is indeed (and provably so, there is science) a superpower, but does not have much to do with language semantics. It's tooling and "tradition". Lisps are usually VM-based, REPLs etc, but you can do that with C or whatever, and similarly, you can "offline" compile lisp
+
+**11/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen I would say it's deeply connected to language design, in that doing it elsewhere is more complex and yields less power.
+Lisp has the most powerful REPL for this reason, but then it needs more semantic info to use it safely in a stateful simulation. Needs Erlang's supervision too.
+
+**12/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen The runtime architecture I'm interested in keeps track of its systems, generates the wires between them, handles snapshots and replay logging from non-deterministic inputs, supervises and restores crashed systems and is aware of frame boundaries to know when live coding is safe.
+
+**13/**
+
+@kenpex @SebAaltonen Too often in Lisp I crash something at the REPL, or lose track of a connected socket, or whatever else happening which causes me to reboot the entire runtime tower, and I see every second waiting to get back to the previous state as wasted time where the mental context fades away
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/kenpex/2023-04-25-nerds-are-crazy-https-git-sr-ht-vdupras-duskos]]
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+---
+title: "@kenpex I find the context hilarious, but Forth as asm-level-yet-very-usable-mini-OS has been done, as the boot firmware for OLPC (http://laptop.org) for many years."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/wadetb/status/1651056827839180800"
+author: "Wade Brainerd"
+handle: wadetb
+post_id: "1651056827839180800"
+date: 2023-04-26
+archived: 2026-08-24
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - kenpex
+description: "@kenpex I find the context hilarious, but Forth as asm-level-yet-very-usable-mini-OS has been done, as the boot firmware for OLPC (http://laptop.org) for many years."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1650678968255913985"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/wadetb/status/1651056827839180800
+- Author: Wade Brainerd (@wadetb)
+- Posted: 2023-04-26 02:53:17
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@kenpex I find the context hilarious, but Forth as asm-level-yet-very-usable-mini-OS has been done, as the boot firmware for OLPC (http://laptop.org) for many years. Looks like it's currently open sourced as https://github.com/openbios/openbios.
+
+**2/**
+
+@wadetb Yes of course. Forth is a language that took me a while to grok (re:the why it makes sense) - but once I understood the context it totally does. @NOTimothyLottes experiments w/it are also fun.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/kenpex/2023-04-25-nerds-are-crazy-https-git-sr-ht-vdupras-duskos]]
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+---
+title: "@kenpex The \"What if we're in an apocalypse?\" part is very 'whatever' to me, but in general I find this and similar projects really cool!"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/JaceCear/status/1651579576089300992"
+author: "Jace Cear 💿"
+handle: JaceCear
+post_id: "1651579576089300992"
+date: 2023-04-27
+archived: 2026-08-24
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - kenpex
+description: "@kenpex The \"What if we're in an apocalypse?\" part is very 'whatever' to me, but in general I find this and similar projects really cool!"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1650678968255913985"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/JaceCear/status/1651579576089300992
+- Author: Jace Cear 💿 (@JaceCear)
+- Posted: 2023-04-27 13:30:30
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@kenpex The "What if we're in an apocalypse?" part is very 'whatever' to me, but in general I find this and similar projects really cool!
+
+And it looks like the main dev creates it on a 75MHz Pentium, with 16MB of RAM, which is awesome! ^^
+
+**2/**
+
+@JaceCear Of course, the grandfather of "cool OS - minus the crazy" is TempleOS
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/kenpex/2023-04-25-nerds-are-crazy-https-git-sr-ht-vdupras-duskos]]