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+title: "@SebAaltonen Who cares? Do what makes you happiest and wealthiest."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ASupersay/status/1786382315767115881"
+author: "Tom"
+handle: ASupersay
+post_id: "1786382315767115881"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Who cares? Do what makes you happiest and wealthiest."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ASupersay/status/1786382315767115881
+- Author: Tom (@ASupersay)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:08:28
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Who cares? Do what makes you happiest and wealthiest.
+
+Just because everyone doesn’t understand how modern tires are made doesn’t mean they should have to use wooden wagon wheels
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I wish visual studio had better code context colorization."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AronThoughts/status/1786371614994493715"
+author: "things aron thought"
+handle: AronThoughts
+post_id: "1786371614994493715"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I wish visual studio had better code context colorization."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AronThoughts/status/1786371614994493715
+- Author: things aron thought (@AronThoughts)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:25:56
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I wish visual studio had better code context colorization. At one point I was using a source editor called source insight. It had amazing code colorization and I had this theme where warm/cool colors meant certain things so I could instantly look at a variable know about it
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Static/globals/#defines were warm"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AronThoughts/status/1786372350612578469"
+author: "things aron thought"
+handle: AronThoughts
+post_id: "1786372350612578469"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Static/globals/#defines were warm"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AronThoughts/status/1786372350612578469
+- Author: things aron thought (@AronThoughts)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:28:52
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Static/globals/#defines were warm
+Members blue hues
+Locals green
+Constants green/yellow
+Passed in vars purple
+Namespaces dotted underlined
+Static methods purple/red 
+etc
+
+**2/**
+
+@AronThoughts Indeed. Good color coding is important for readability too. IDEs do this very well.
+
+**3/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Most IDEs I've used since dont have this level of specificity though but I've not used many different ones
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen The only good faith reply is if you’re a systems engineer and you have to work on remote servers with no ability to run an IDE/Desktop so you’re stuck with VIM (can’t reverse tunnel/mount)"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/BenQett/status/1786395978787946875"
+author: "A Proud Goat"
+handle: BenQett
+post_id: "1786395978787946875"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen The only good faith reply is if you’re a systems engineer and you have to work on remote servers with no ability to run an IDE/Desktop so you’re stuck with VIM (can’t reverse tunnel/mount)"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/BenQett/status/1786395978787946875
+- Author: A Proud Goat (@BenQett)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 14:02:45
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen The only good faith reply is if you’re a systems engineer and you have to work on remote servers with no ability to run an IDE/Desktop so you’re stuck with VIM (can’t reverse tunnel/mount)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Nothing wrong with new tools, it's just that most people get used to them and can never go back."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/BugoTheCat/status/1786354630043013130"
+author: "BugoTheCat"
+handle: BugoTheCat
+post_id: "1786354630043013130"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Nothing wrong with new tools, it's just that most people get used to them and can never go back."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/BugoTheCat/status/1786354630043013130
+- Author: BugoTheCat (@BugoTheCat)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 11:18:27
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Nothing wrong with new tools, it's just that most people get used to them and can never go back. It then feels to them like the old ways were horrific or they have an exaggerated negative response about the past.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Same reason some large corps demand that we have specific paths for random shit we all use autocomplete for."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/CobraSwims/status/1786507329988591871"
+author: "Olivia's Top Hunter"
+handle: CobraSwims
+post_id: "1786507329988591871"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Same reason some large corps demand that we have specific paths for random shit we all use autocomplete for."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/CobraSwims/status/1786507329988591871
+- Author: Olivia's Top Hunter (@CobraSwims)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 21:25:13
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Same reason some large corps demand that we have specific paths for random shit we all use autocomplete for. 
+
+It has nothing to do with skill, it's entirely about the optics and about what "kind" of dev you are
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You should write your code on paper by hand 😤 totally"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/CptCrabhands/status/1786362572754575769"
+author: "Crabs™"
+handle: CptCrabhands
+post_id: "1786362572754575769"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You should write your code on paper by hand 😤 totally"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/CptCrabhands/status/1786362572754575769
+- Author: Crabs™ (@CptCrabhands)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 11:50:01
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You should write your code on paper by hand 😤 totally
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Being able to code without assistant is a good thing, maybe?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/DarthJahus/status/1786491957369352622"
+author: "Jahus"
+handle: DarthJahus
+post_id: "1786491957369352622"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Being able to code without assistant is a good thing, maybe?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/DarthJahus/status/1786491957369352622
+- Author: Jahus (@DarthJahus)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 20:24:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Being able to code without assistant is a good thing, maybe?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Still remember how my technical school assigned a literal psychopath to teach us do databases."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Desxon1/status/1786508657745592433"
+author: "Desxon"
+handle: Desxon1
+post_id: "1786508657745592433"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Still remember how my technical school assigned a literal psychopath to teach us do databases."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Desxon1/status/1786508657745592433
+- Author: Desxon (@Desxon1)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 21:30:30
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Still remember how my technical school assigned a literal psychopath to teach us do databases. The SQL was done ON FUCKING PAPER and he graded each and every point of it. A lack of "," could cost ya points.
+
+Then he left, went to work for Intel and got fired for using drugs
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen because high arrogance + low intelligence"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Enhex/status/1786350991530450966"
+author: "Enhex"
+handle: Enhex
+post_id: "1786350991530450966"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen because high arrogance + low intelligence"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Enhex/status/1786350991530450966
+- Author: Enhex (@Enhex)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 11:03:59
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen because high arrogance + low intelligence
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Can't stand IDEs, honestly."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Floppie7th/status/1786434451657953480"
+author: "Mike Cronce"
+handle: Floppie7th
+post_id: "1786434451657953480"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Can't stand IDEs, honestly."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Floppie7th/status/1786434451657953480
+- Author: Mike Cronce (@Floppie7th)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:35:38
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Can't stand IDEs, honestly.  I wouldn't use Notepad because its navigation is horrible, but autocomplete doesn't save any time (typing isn't really a bottleneck), gdb and debug prints are great for debugging, and finding a definition with CTRL+Z followed rg 'whatever' works great
+
+**2/**
+
+@Floppie7th If your tool has code navigation (find symbols, find callers, etc) and color colorization then it is an IDE.
+
+Autocomplete is not a big deal. Code navigation tools and code colorization are the most important things. Writing code is not as important as reading & browsing code.
+
+**3/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Starting by mentioning autocomplete and built-in debuggers, then defining IDE as "code colorization", seems like moving the goalposts pretty far.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I pretty much agree with you, but I started using nvim recently, and it doesn't have an LSP for the a language that I already know very well (gml)  And I did learn stuff forgoing the autocomplete, I feel like my knowledge deepened, if that makes sense."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/GumboatDiplomat/status/1786354483758330313"
+author: "GunBoat Diplomat"
+handle: GumboatDiplomat
+post_id: "1786354483758330313"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I pretty much agree with you, but I started using nvim recently, and it doesn't have an LSP for the a language that I already know very well (gml)  And I did learn stuff forgoing the autocomplete, I feel like my knowledge deepened, if that makes sense."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/GumboatDiplomat/status/1786354483758330313
+- Author: GunBoat Diplomat (@GumboatDiplomat)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 11:17:52
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I pretty much agree with you, but I started using nvim recently, and it doesn't have an LSP for the a language that I already know very well (gml)  And I did learn stuff forgoing the autocomplete, I feel like my knowledge deepened, if that makes sense.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen To flex on others"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/IlyasHairline/status/1786458723541524506"
+author: "Ilya Sutskever's hairline"
+handle: IlyasHairline
+post_id: "1786458723541524506"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen To flex on others"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/IlyasHairline/status/1786458723541524506
+- Author: Ilya Sutskever's hairline (@IlyasHairline)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 18:12:05
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen To flex on others
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen As a kid I thought coding seemed cool and wrote a 30 second program in basic in a text file I renamed to an .exe."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Junts/status/1786445991211684144"
+author: "Mike Juntunen"
+handle: Junts
+post_id: "1786445991211684144"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen As a kid I thought coding seemed cool and wrote a 30 second program in basic in a text file I renamed to an .exe."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Junts/status/1786445991211684144
+- Author: Mike Juntunen (@Junts)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:21:29
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen As a kid I thought coding seemed cool and wrote a 30 second program in basic in a text file I renamed to an .exe.  it was so aggravating that I decided programming was a pain
+
+As an adult I now code for a living with modern tools.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Gate keeping programming and thinking it makes you special is incredibly sad."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/KasperArnklit/status/1786393718829768718"
+author: "Kasper Arnklit Frandsen"
+handle: KasperArnklit
+post_id: "1786393718829768718"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Gate keeping programming and thinking it makes you special is incredibly sad."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/KasperArnklit/status/1786393718829768718
+- Author: Kasper Arnklit Frandsen (@KasperArnklit)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:53:46
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Gate keeping programming and thinking it makes you special is incredibly sad.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen There's a big difference between \"being able to\" and actually doing it."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Kinker_0/status/1786367923868639701"
+author: "Simon"
+handle: Kinker_0
+post_id: "1786367923868639701"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen There's a big difference between \"being able to\" and actually doing it."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Kinker_0/status/1786367923868639701
+- Author: Simon (@Kinker_0)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:11:16
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen There's a big difference between "being able to" and actually doing it.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen People have a superiority complex for working in the hardest way possible because “that’s how I had to do it”."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Lascif/status/1786353508901384368"
+author: "Lascif"
+handle: Lascif
+post_id: "1786353508901384368"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen People have a superiority complex for working in the hardest way possible because “that’s how I had to do it”."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Lascif/status/1786353508901384368
+- Author: Lascif (@Lascif)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 11:14:00
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen People have a superiority complex for working in the hardest way possible because “that’s how I had to do it”.
+They forget that they should work smarter not harder.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You should be able to code in Notepad just so you can truly relish the joy of not having to."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MacGyver1618/status/1786373263947432188"
+author: "Joni Malén"
+handle: MacGyver1618
+post_id: "1786373263947432188"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You should be able to code in Notepad just so you can truly relish the joy of not having to."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MacGyver1618/status/1786373263947432188
+- Author: Joni Malén (@MacGyver1618)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:32:29
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You should be able to code in Notepad just so you can truly relish the joy of not having to.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen MAJOR DISAGREE"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Naam_Hai_Bulla/status/1786462326905848066"
+author: "random dude"
+handle: Naam_Hai_Bulla
+post_id: "1786462326905848066"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen MAJOR DISAGREE"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Naam_Hai_Bulla/status/1786462326905848066
+- Author: random dude (@Naam_Hai_Bulla)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 18:26:24
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen MAJOR DISAGREE
+Especially if you're learning a new tech stack modern IDEs are too user friendly
+
+Had to switch off pretty much every setting in vscode when I was learning angular
+It would import and set up everything for me too from one autocomplete
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You shouldn’t have to code this way for serious projects."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Natnew7/status/1786410474407436585"
+author: "natnew 🥔"
+handle: Natnew7
+post_id: "1786410474407436585"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You shouldn’t have to code this way for serious projects."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Natnew7/status/1786410474407436585
+- Author: natnew 🥔 (@Natnew7)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 15:00:21
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You shouldn’t have to code this way for serious projects. But you should be capable of it.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen He's a boomer."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/NeutralRational/status/1786498531068428288"
+author: "Neutral Rational"
+handle: NeutralRational
+post_id: "1786498531068428288"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen He's a boomer."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/NeutralRational/status/1786498531068428288
+- Author: Neutral Rational (@NeutralRational)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 20:50:16
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen He's a boomer.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I think the point is that you should be able to code well enough that IDE is a tool to help you and make you more efficient, not a tool that allows you to do it at all - you can still do it without an IDE, it's just slow and annoying."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Niko_sk2x/status/1786374000802746449"
+author: "Niko 🏳️‍⚧️💛🤍💜🖤"
+handle: Niko_sk2x
+post_id: "1786374000802746449"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I think the point is that you should be able to code well enough that IDE is a tool to help you and make you more efficient, not a tool that allows you to do it at all - you can still do it without an IDE, it's just slow and annoying."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Niko_sk2x/status/1786374000802746449
+- Author: Niko 🏳️‍⚧️💛🤍💜🖤 (@Niko_sk2x)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:35:25
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I think the point is that you should be able to code well enough that IDE is a tool to help you and make you more efficient, not a tool that allows you to do it at all - you can still do it without an IDE, it's just slow and annoying. If you can't at all, that's not a good sign
+
+**2/**
+
+@Barteks2x There's no real difference in practice. Of course I could write code on notepad and press space 4 times manually. The main problem with notepad is not writing code. It's reading code. And coding is 90% reading, 10% writing. Color coding, jumping to symbols, etc.
+
+**3/**
+
+@Barteks2x Reading a big code base with notepad is super painful, as you have to open the cmake file to see where the includes actually are and then find the .cpp files if you need to investigate further. That's over 10x slower reading experience in big code base.
+
+**4/**
+
+@Barteks2x For a new junior programmer it is super important that their code reading experience is as good as possible so that they learn the big code base as quickly as possible. Thus they should use an IDE. Seniors should not ask them to use notepad instead to learn it. That's just stupid
+
+**5/**
+
+@Barteks2x It doesn't really matter if a programmer can't write code on notepad, as they should never be doing that in any reasonably sized project. Their productivity when reading code is so much worse, and reading is 90% of the job.
+
+**6/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Yes you shouldn't ever need to do that for anything nontrivial. But I've seen people who could just about get by with an IDE and seemingly able to do some things but not able to write a "hello world" without an IDE. The IDE was hiding real issues here.
+
+**7/**
+
+@Barteks2x When I am hiring a junior, I wouldn't want to make them code in notepad without Google, because nobody actually does that. If it was a code assignment, we can sit down and they can explain what their code does and why. I can also check their hobby projects in github.
+
+**8/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Sure there definitely are easier and more reliable ways to judge someone's skill. It's not particularly good test of anything but still something you should be bake to do to some extent, at least a "hello world" and some other trivial programs.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen To assert dominance"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/OscarBR92/status/1786385352522911990"
+author: "Oscar"
+handle: OscarBR92
+post_id: "1786385352522911990"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen To assert dominance"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/OscarBR92/status/1786385352522911990
+- Author: Oscar (@OscarBR92)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:20:32
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen To assert dominance
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Nothing has more forever-a-junior-level-programmer energy than “You should spend more time and energy looking up API calls and typing console commands instead of using that time to iterate on your design and improve your code” takes"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/PurpleNinjaGrrl/status/1786457120608505969"
+author: "Cathy Kimport"
+handle: PurpleNinjaGrrl
+post_id: "1786457120608505969"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Nothing has more forever-a-junior-level-programmer energy than “You should spend more time and energy looking up API calls and typing console commands instead of using that time to iterate on your design and improve your code” takes"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/PurpleNinjaGrrl/status/1786457120608505969
+- Author: Cathy Kimport (@PurpleNinjaGrrl)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 18:05:42
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Nothing has more forever-a-junior-level-programmer energy than “You should spend more time and energy looking up API calls and typing console commands instead of using that time to iterate on your design and improve your code” takes
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen That is just another IT-twitter bait, just mute or block him, he is fuckwad."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/RatherSnideBun/status/1786405179580964870"
+author: "Vifany"
+handle: RatherSnideBun
+post_id: "1786405179580964870"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen That is just another IT-twitter bait, just mute or block him, he is fuckwad."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/RatherSnideBun/status/1786405179580964870
+- Author: Vifany (@RatherSnideBun)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 14:39:19
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen That is just another IT-twitter bait, just mute or block him, he is fuckwad.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "I could write all my code in assembler too."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/SebAaltonen/status/1786347046741377418"
+author: "Sebastian Aaltonen"
+handle: SebAaltonen
+post_id: "1786347046741377418"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "I could write all my code in assembler too."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/SebAaltonen/status/1786347046741377418
+- Author: Sebastian Aaltonen (@SebAaltonen)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 10:48:19
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+I could write all my code in assembler too. But why would I do that? Modern tools give me better productivity so I use them instead. I know how to read assembly when debugging code, but I want my compiler to write it.
+
+**2/**
+
+I personally use git from command line, but when I need to look at the history or solve a merge conflict, I jump into a modern GUI to do those tasks. GUI is just so much more productive for those tasks.
+
+**3/**
+
+Professional programmer knows how to use the best tools to make them productive. This includes IDEs, debuggers, profilers, sanitizers, version control, etc, etc. And Google too (for API docs, etc). A 10x coder isn't sitting in dark room with terminal. They know how all the tools.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen chill bro it's an engagement bait"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Shrikanthabudya/status/1786455727265157405"
+author: "meow"
+handle: Shrikanthabudya
+post_id: "1786455727265157405"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen chill bro it's an engagement bait"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Shrikanthabudya/status/1786455727265157405
+- Author: meow (@Shrikanthabudya)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 18:00:10
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen chill bro it's an engagement bait
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Yeah if it's available use it."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Tankerbot/status/1786435736582906182"
+author: "Apache Thunder"
+handle: Tankerbot
+post_id: "1786435736582906182"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Yeah if it's available use it."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Tankerbot/status/1786435736582906182
+- Author: Apache Thunder (@Tankerbot)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:40:44
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Yeah if it's available use it. Though in my case I end up using Notepad (Notepad++) for most of the C++ stuff I code mostly because it's Nintendo DS/DSi homebrew and setting them up in a IDE would be a pain given the build system they use so I've never bothered doing it. :P
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Old guys trying to act like their depreciating skillset makes them more valuable..."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/TechTolley/status/1786378649324736838"
+author: "Jack Tolley"
+handle: TechTolley
+post_id: "1786378649324736838"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Old guys trying to act like their depreciating skillset makes them more valuable..."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/TechTolley/status/1786378649324736838
+- Author: Jack Tolley (@TechTolley)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:53:53
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Old guys trying to act like their depreciating skillset makes them more valuable... somehow...
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It’s a showcase of the « I’m stronger than you » syndrome so many programmers have."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ThePunkHucker/status/1786378176765059276"
+author: "℘ųŋƙ|ɧųƈƙ"
+handle: ThePunkHucker
+post_id: "1786378176765059276"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It’s a showcase of the « I’m stronger than you » syndrome so many programmers have."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ThePunkHucker/status/1786378176765059276
+- Author: ℘ųŋƙ|ɧųƈƙ (@ThePunkHucker)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:52:01
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It’s a showcase of the « I’m stronger than you » syndrome so many programmers have. It’s stupid.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen For the first few months of my first web development job I was using notepad++."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Tuuveee/status/1786376771375431847"
+author: "Tuuvee"
+handle: Tuuveee
+post_id: "1786376771375431847"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen For the first few months of my first web development job I was using notepad++."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Tuuveee/status/1786376771375431847
+- Author: Tuuvee (@Tuuveee)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:46:26
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen For the first few months of my first web development job I was using notepad++. Which works fine for small projects, sure. But you'd have to threaten me with physical harm to make me go back. Using an IDE just makes the workflow so much better when working with more than one file
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I was once interviewed where they asked me to write code and diagram databases in Notepad 🤦‍♂️"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/WillGermany/status/1786376026483753449"
+author: "Will Germany"
+handle: WillGermany
+post_id: "1786376026483753449"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I was once interviewed where they asked me to write code and diagram databases in Notepad 🤦‍♂️"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/WillGermany/status/1786376026483753449
+- Author: Will Germany (@WillGermany)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:43:28
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I was once interviewed where they asked me to write code and diagram databases in Notepad 🤦‍♂️
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I start to consider to go back to a simple text editor, like when I was using emacs at school, juste because VS is getting worse."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/XBigand/status/1786376101192778096"
+author: "Flamaros"
+handle: XBigand
+post_id: "1786376101192778096"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I start to consider to go back to a simple text editor, like when I was using emacs at school, juste because VS is getting worse."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/XBigand/status/1786376101192778096
+- Author: Flamaros (@XBigand)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:43:46
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I start to consider to go back to a simple text editor, like when I was using emacs at school, juste because VS is getting worse.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You shouldn't actually do it."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/XenoVoid112/status/1786445740434235519"
+author: "XenoVoid 🏳️‍⚧️"
+handle: XenoVoid112
+post_id: "1786445740434235519"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You shouldn't actually do it."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/XenoVoid112/status/1786445740434235519
+- Author: XenoVoid 🏳️‍⚧️ (@XenoVoid112)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:20:29
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You shouldn't actually do it. You should be *ABLE* to do it. They mean you should be able to know a language enough that you don't need tools to assist. At least, that is my interpretation
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Some people feel scared to give up lower level tasks to automatization."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ZoldenGames/status/1786394607338623091"
+author: "Zolden"
+handle: ZoldenGames
+post_id: "1786394607338623091"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Some people feel scared to give up lower level tasks to automatization."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ZoldenGames/status/1786394607338623091
+- Author: Zolden (@ZoldenGames)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:57:18
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Some people feel scared to give up lower level tasks to automatization. But that's how progress works and productivity grows.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen blue check farming engagement"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/_Felipe/status/1786409180720472164"
+author: "Felipe O. Carvalho"
+handle: _Felipe
+post_id: "1786409180720472164"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen blue check farming engagement"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/_Felipe/status/1786409180720472164
+- Author: Felipe O. Carvalho (@_Felipe)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 14:55:13
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen blue check farming engagement
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen The key word is ABLE."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/_benwick/status/1786368655640453619"
+author: "Benwick"
+handle: _benwick
+post_id: "1786368655640453619"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen The key word is ABLE."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/_benwick/status/1786368655640453619
+- Author: Benwick (@_benwick)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:14:11
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen The key word is ABLE. How many people cannot compile a program without the visual studio ide? You're only cheating yourself if you don't understand how your toolchain does its work.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It's a meme from a person who posts nothing but memes on Twitter."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/atomlib/status/1786380669016224073"
+author: "atomlib"
+handle: atomlib
+post_id: "1786380669016224073"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It's a meme from a person who posts nothing but memes on Twitter."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/atomlib/status/1786380669016224073
+- Author: atomlib (@atomlib)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:01:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It's a meme from a person who posts nothing but memes on Twitter. There's no meaningful debate here. Frankly, there's simply nothing worth paying attention to as this person is only interested in your engagement.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen it's bait."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/baris2c/status/1786442578306707791"
+author: "bariscc"
+handle: baris2c
+post_id: "1786442578306707791"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen it's bait."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/baris2c/status/1786442578306707791
+- Author: bariscc (@baris2c)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:07:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen it's bait.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen it's just coder bravado to show off toy algorithms"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/bozoid/status/1786382993696727539"
+author: "Bozoid"
+handle: bozoid
+post_id: "1786382993696727539"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen it's just coder bravado to show off toy algorithms"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/bozoid/status/1786382993696727539
+- Author: Bozoid (@bozoid)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:11:09
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen it's just coder bravado to show off toy algorithms
+
+real production code is a shitshow Jenga tower that is 90% stupid boilerplate and copy-paste and calls to frameworks to do the thinking they don't want to do 
+
+it's IDE-output monstrosity that requires an IDE
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen They are signaling "
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/burlapDD/status/1786439905972732411"
+author: "burlap"
+handle: burlapDD
+post_id: "1786439905972732411"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: true
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen They are signaling "
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/burlapDD/status/1786439905972732411
+- Author: burlap (@burlapDD)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:57:18
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen They are signaling 
+
+But its like being proud of gluing frames in a film while the rest use capcut on their phone
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Because when you have to fix something on a customer system then usually notepad/vim/nano is literally the only option you have, that's why."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/coolkoon/status/1786523621361344970"
+author: "CoolKoon"
+handle: coolkoon
+post_id: "1786523621361344970"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Because when you have to fix something on a customer system then usually notepad/vim/nano is literally the only option you have, that's why."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/coolkoon/status/1786523621361344970
+- Author: CoolKoon (@coolkoon)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 22:29:57
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Because when you have to fix something on a customer system then usually notepad/vim/nano is literally the only option you have, that's why.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen \"You should be able to code with punch cards directly in binary\" same energy"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/damianGray/status/1786470064260051263"
+author: "Damian Gray"
+handle: damianGray
+post_id: "1786470064260051263"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen \"You should be able to code with punch cards directly in binary\" same energy"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/damianGray/status/1786470064260051263
+- Author: Damian Gray (@damianGray)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 18:57:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen "You should be able to code with punch cards directly in binary" same energy
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You should be *able* to, it shows that you understand what you're writing, but you shouldn't *actually* do it because it's ridiculously inefficient"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/dorithegreat128/status/1786485165029564483"
+author: "Dori The Great"
+handle: dorithegreat128
+post_id: "1786485165029564483"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You should be *able* to, it shows that you understand what you're writing, but you shouldn't *actually* do it because it's ridiculously inefficient"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/dorithegreat128/status/1786485165029564483
+- Author: Dori The Great (@dorithegreat128)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 19:57:09
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You should be *able* to, it shows that you understand what you're writing, but you shouldn't *actually* do it because it's ridiculously inefficient
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Real programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/fightuntil/status/1786509624205566416"
+author: "kiteless"
+handle: fightuntil
+post_id: "1786509624205566416"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Real programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/fightuntil/status/1786509624205566416
+- Author: kiteless (@fightuntil)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 21:34:20
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Real programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Tbf intelisense is just a faster way of finding the right code/method to do something instead of finding it online or in a book..."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/foudre_tempete/status/1786517465356177659"
+author: "ST0RMERATC00L"
+handle: foudre_tempete
+post_id: "1786517465356177659"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Tbf intelisense is just a faster way of finding the right code/method to do something instead of finding it online or in a book..."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/foudre_tempete/status/1786517465356177659
+- Author: ST0RMERATC00L (@foudre_tempete)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 22:05:30
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Tbf intelisense is just a faster way of finding the right code/method to do something instead of finding it online or in a book...
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I started in notepad, now I use vim for all my programming needs"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/frostyfrog/status/1786446908376166773"
+author: "Frostyfrog ❄️🌨️ Artistフロスティ 🎨"
+handle: frostyfrog
+post_id: "1786446908376166773"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I started in notepad, now I use vim for all my programming needs"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/frostyfrog/status/1786446908376166773
+- Author: Frostyfrog ❄️🌨️ Artistフロスティ 🎨 (@frostyfrog)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:25:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I started in notepad, now I use vim for all my programming needs
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I had that at an interview once."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/games_pants/status/1786349232997142887"
+author: "Space Pants Games"
+handle: games_pants
+post_id: "1786349232997142887"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I had that at an interview once."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/games_pants/status/1786349232997142887
+- Author: Space Pants Games (@games_pants)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 10:57:00
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I had that at an interview once. A programming test in Notepad.  90% of my time was spent battling the text editor! I probably should have got up and walked out.. it was a sign of worse things to come when I got the job :)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I once was in an interview where they handed me a pen and paper and said \"write this program\""
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/gregrthenson/status/1786425967688524176"
+author: "ComptonEMT"
+handle: gregrthenson
+post_id: "1786425967688524176"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I once was in an interview where they handed me a pen and paper and said \"write this program\""
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/gregrthenson/status/1786425967688524176
+- Author: ComptonEMT (@gregrthenson)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:01:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I once was in an interview where they handed me a pen and paper and said "write this program"
+I started writing pseudo code and they stopped me and said "no, actually write it"
+I put the pen down, pushed the paper forward, and told them I would not do that.
+
+Use tools not ego!
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Honestly the meme works infinitely better if you sub IntelliSense out for Copilot."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/h15panicatd/status/1786451570667708834"
+author: "vento"
+handle: h15panicatd
+post_id: "1786451570667708834"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Honestly the meme works infinitely better if you sub IntelliSense out for Copilot."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/h15panicatd/status/1786451570667708834
+- Author: vento (@h15panicatd)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:43:39
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Honestly the meme works infinitely better if you sub IntelliSense out for Copilot.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen @SebAaltonen use whatever you want"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/heyotetsuo/status/1786388450779824330"
+author: "heyotetsuo"
+handle: heyotetsuo
+post_id: "1786388450779824330"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen @SebAaltonen use whatever you want"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/heyotetsuo/status/1786388450779824330
+- Author: heyotetsuo (@heyotetsuo)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 13:32:50
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen @SebAaltonen use whatever you want
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -60,18 +60,6 @@ Further inteli often gets it wrong so you have to know what ur doing. It's  !cop

@the_vertigamer @SebAaltonen Plausibly you could learn all the foundations in different ways. The meme isn't prescriptive that you learn by doing it the hard way, only that you *could* do it the hard way. If you couldn't, then it suggests you haven't learned all the foundations.

-**8/**
-
-@jmac_ai @SebAaltonen Fair enough you've got me there. Overall I do think this debate is pretty meaningless though. It often devolves into the 'real programers code by doing {insane antiquated thing}' argument. 
-
-Which reminds me of how people used to get mad at the idea of compilers
-
-**9/**
-
-@the_vertigamer @SebAaltonen You'll get no objection from me on using tools! In fact, I am continually dissatisfied that our tools and languages are not better. 
-
-I think learning foundations is important, but progress is made by being dissatisfied with the status quo.
-
 ## Related

 - Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Because that’s how we learned and you should too 😂"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/leonpalafox/status/1786402943597437170"
+author: "Leon Palafox"
+handle: leonpalafox
+post_id: "1786402943597437170"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Because that’s how we learned and you should too 😂"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/leonpalafox/status/1786402943597437170
+- Author: Leon Palafox (@leonpalafox)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 14:30:26
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Because that’s how we learned and you should too 😂
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It's like telling a carpenter \"You should be able to do all your work without power tools\"."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/lethal_guitar/status/1786371061866697103"
+author: "Nikolai Wuttke-Hohendorf"
+handle: lethal_guitar
+post_id: "1786371061866697103"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It's like telling a carpenter \"You should be able to do all your work without power tools\"."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/lethal_guitar/status/1786371061866697103
+- Author: Nikolai Wuttke-Hohendorf (@lethal_guitar)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:23:44
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It's like telling a carpenter "You should be able to do all your work without power tools". Yeah it's possible, but it's extremely slow and exhausting so there's no good reason to do it when better alternatives exist.
+
+**2/**
+
+@lethal_guitar Yeah. You have done it manually a few times first and then you learn how to use tools. Technically you would still be able to do the thing manually, but you haven't done that in a few years. I could code with notepad, but it would just be much slower and more painful.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It makes old people feel cool, because they at some point were forced to code like that"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/maessof91/status/1786440206758858835"
+author: "Maessof👾🍿🍉"
+handle: maessof91
+post_id: "1786440206758858835"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It makes old people feel cool, because they at some point were forced to code like that"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/maessof91/status/1786440206758858835
+- Author: Maessof👾🍿🍉 (@maessof91)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:58:30
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It makes old people feel cool, because they at some point were forced to code like that
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You are an intellisense yourself if you have the references at your disposal."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/maisakal/status/1786521520094740901"
+author: "mavisakal - kadir"
+handle: maisakal
+post_id: "1786521520094740901"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: true
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You are an intellisense yourself if you have the references at your disposal."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/maisakal/status/1786521520094740901
+- Author: mavisakal - kadir (@maisakal)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 22:21:37
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You are an intellisense yourself if you have the references at your disposal. You just need to look it up. Don’t be a lazyass, go look it up.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen \"Should be able to\" doesn't mean \"prefer to.\"  It's just a base line level of fluency that implies more experience and probably more competency."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/mbc0der/status/1786375791606911412"
+author: "mbcoder"
+handle: mbc0der
+post_id: "1786375791606911412"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen \"Should be able to\" doesn't mean \"prefer to.\"  It's just a base line level of fluency that implies more experience and probably more competency."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/mbc0der/status/1786375791606911412
+- Author: mbcoder (@mbc0der)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:42:32
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen "Should be able to" doesn't mean "prefer to."  It's just a base line level of fluency that implies more experience and probably more competency.
+
+**2/**
+
+@mbc0der I really can't read a big code base using notepad. It's so painful to manually juggle dozen of cmake files to find where every header is so that I can read them. Coding is 90% reading. Of course everybody can write on notepad. That's not the problem.
+
+**3/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Yes, I agree it's unwieldy to do so in a very large codebase or one that you are unfamiliar with. Obviously this is just a meme so there's not much nuance, and you can interpret it in different ways.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You are weak"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/megaloid6/status/1786492057105678716"
+author: "megaloid"
+handle: megaloid6
+post_id: "1786492057105678716"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You are weak"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/megaloid6/status/1786492057105678716
+- Author: megaloid (@megaloid6)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 20:24:32
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You are weak
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I think there is some value in this."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/officiallyninja/status/1786436393788653753"
+author: "Ninja"
+handle: officiallyninja
+post_id: "1786436393788653753"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I think there is some value in this."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/officiallyninja/status/1786436393788653753
+- Author: Ninja (@officiallyninja)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:43:21
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I think there is some value in this. At least for a beginner. You should be able to use notepad + terminal to write simple programs. That doesn't mean it's practical. But any intermediate dev should be able to do it, it'll be annoying yes, but not *that* hard for small problems
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It's not about wanting, it's about being able to."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/pepite2choc/status/1786371808930799629"
+author: "pépite de chocolat"
+handle: pepite2choc
+post_id: "1786371808930799629"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It's not about wanting, it's about being able to."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/pepite2choc/status/1786371808930799629
+- Author: pépite de chocolat (@pepite2choc)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 12:26:43
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It's not about wanting, it's about being able to.
+Just a car driver should be able to drive without driving assistance.
+If you NEED autocompletion and debugging to code... Something is off
+(ofc you may be 10x faster with all ide features, but that is not the point)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen No need to do that."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/redhog_org/status/1786423454129905799"
+author: "No to authenticated social media!"
+handle: redhog_org
+post_id: "1786423454129905799"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen No need to do that."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/redhog_org/status/1786423454129905799
+- Author: No to authenticated social media! (@redhog_org)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 15:51:56
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen No need to do that. But to be able to. If unable, the tools are fooling you to think you understand the code better than you actually do.
+
+**2/**
+
+@redhog_org Is there really some benefit for finding each symbol in 10 million line code base by browsing directory structure manually? You could just click on a symbol to find the implementation in IDE, read it and continue. 10x+ faster. Coding is 90% reading. Notepad is not great for that.
+
+**3/**
+
+@redhog_org Anybody could write code in notepad. The problem is reading. Writing code is less than <10% of programmer's time. Reading and browsing the code base is what matters. For that you need code highlight and jump to symbols, caller graphs, etc. Step flow with debugger.
+
+**4/**
+
+@redhog_org I would be much more concerned if a junior programmer would not be using IDE to boost their productivity. I don't need to know whether they could write the code in notepad, since nobody really does that. That's not the job.
+
+**5/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It is exactly the junior devs that need an IDE because their mental model of thew whole project is lacking, that build spaghetti across the project. Their productivity is only worth it if it doesn't cost more in PR review and reefaactoring.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen they just gaslight themselves that their broken vim config is equivalent to a proper IDE"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ruch483/status/1786443239559504004"
+author: "live free or die"
+handle: ruch483
+post_id: "1786443239559504004"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen they just gaslight themselves that their broken vim config is equivalent to a proper IDE"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ruch483/status/1786443239559504004
+- Author: live free or die (@ruch483)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:10:33
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen they just gaslight themselves that their broken vim config is equivalent to a proper IDE
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Simple editors tend to lead to other bad choices to compensate."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/saarw/status/1786425298981933267"
+author: "William Saar"
+handle: saarw
+post_id: "1786425298981933267"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Simple editors tend to lead to other bad choices to compensate."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/saarw/status/1786425298981933267
+- Author: William Saar (@saarw)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 15:59:16
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Simple editors tend to lead to other bad choices to compensate. Such as preference for languages that have so little syntax and type information that they create maintenance nightmares
+https://x.com/saarw/status/1755529704180720114?t=zfjfI-8BhZ915QDCMRRjAQ&s=19
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen This?"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sksauli/status/1786361331567796680"
+author: "Sauli Kiviranta"
+handle: sksauli
+post_id: "1786361331567796680"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen This?"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sksauli/status/1786361331567796680
+- Author: Sauli Kiviranta (@sksauli)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 11:45:05
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen This?
+
+![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMpuG5OWEAAk6z5?format=jpg&name=orig)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen The decel mind is perplexing 🤔"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/smurfpappa123/status/1786489038234382830"
+author: "Smurfpappa"
+handle: smurfpappa123
+post_id: "1786489038234382830"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen The decel mind is perplexing 🤔"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/smurfpappa123/status/1786489038234382830
+- Author: Smurfpappa (@smurfpappa123)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 20:12:32
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen The decel mind is perplexing 🤔
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Folks advocating for \"notepad\" coding is much like a grandfather boasting how he walked to school during a blizzard."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/streetsofboston/status/1786460687641813039"
+author: "Anton Spaans @streetsofboston@androiddev.social"
+handle: streetsofboston
+post_id: "1786460687641813039"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Folks advocating for \"notepad\" coding is much like a grandfather boasting how he walked to school during a blizzard."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/streetsofboston/status/1786460687641813039
+- Author: Anton Spaans @streetsofboston@androiddev.social (@streetsofboston)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 18:19:53
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Folks advocating for "notepad" coding is much like a grandfather boasting how he walked to school during a blizzard.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen To prove twitter they're good coders"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/theogramme_dev/status/1786473324903592323"
+author: "theo"
+handle: theogramme_dev
+post_id: "1786473324903592323"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen To prove twitter they're good coders"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/theogramme_dev/status/1786473324903592323
+- Author: theo (@theogramme_dev)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 19:10:06
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen To prove twitter they're good coders
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen i sort of agree, but i'm so often forced to code with no functional IDE when teaching students (cos they haven't set up correctly) that i can say it's a helpful skill to keep."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/thewillsykes/status/1786531082961141959"
+author: "william sykes 😃"
+handle: thewillsykes
+post_id: "1786531082961141959"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen i sort of agree, but i'm so often forced to code with no functional IDE when teaching students (cos they haven't set up correctly) that i can say it's a helpful skill to keep."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/thewillsykes/status/1786531082961141959
+- Author: william sykes 😃 (@thewillsykes)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 22:59:36
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen i sort of agree, but i'm so often forced to code with no functional IDE when teaching students (cos they haven't set up correctly) that i can say it's a helpful skill to keep. When i started coding C, I used "Edit" in Dos... I hugely prefer auto complete but it has made me weaker
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It's obvious engagement farming / rage bait."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/thr0wsException/status/1786437232456278458"
+author: "scriptkitty"
+handle: thr0wsException
+post_id: "1786437232456278458"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It's obvious engagement farming / rage bait."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/thr0wsException/status/1786437232456278458
+- Author: scriptkitty (@thr0wsException)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 16:46:41
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It's obvious engagement farming / rage bait. Just ignore it tbh
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It's a desire to appear extraordinarily competent without having worked enough for it."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/unmodify/status/1786410294052327835"
+author: "Jesse Palmer"
+handle: unmodify
+post_id: "1786410294052327835"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It's a desire to appear extraordinarily competent without having worked enough for it."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/unmodify/status/1786410294052327835
+- Author: Jesse Palmer (@unmodify)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 14:59:38
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It's a desire to appear extraordinarily competent without having worked enough for it. Ie. Youth.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Because I don’t want the distractions, I don’t want my hand held, I just want to type, typos and all."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/virtuallyfun/status/1786514434338288033"
+author: "Virtually Fun"
+handle: virtuallyfun
+post_id: "1786514434338288033"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Because I don’t want the distractions, I don’t want my hand held, I just want to type, typos and all."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/virtuallyfun/status/1786514434338288033
+- Author: Virtually Fun (@virtuallyfun)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 21:53:27
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Because I don’t want the distractions, I don’t want my hand held, I just want to type, typos and all.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I would agree with the original poster."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/wrd83/status/1786410316886073424"
+author: "Alex"
+handle: wrd83
+post_id: "1786410316886073424"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I would agree with the original poster."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/wrd83/status/1786410316886073424
+- Author: Alex (@wrd83)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 14:59:44
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I would agree with the original poster. You should be able to code in notepad.
+
+It does not imply you coding day to day in notepad.
+
+But if you have a meeting and only a whiteboard you still want to be able to get your ideas across.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Hell, I used notepad++ for my shitty terraria mods and the TML discord act like I sacrificed them all to Satan lmfao"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ytvizthex/status/1786444946322399302"
+author: "vizthex"
+handle: ytvizthex
+post_id: "1786444946322399302"
+date: 2024-05-03
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Hell, I used notepad++ for my shitty terraria mods and the TML discord act like I sacrificed them all to Satan lmfao"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ytvizthex/status/1786444946322399302
+- Author: vizthex (@ytvizthex)
+- Posted: 2024-05-03 17:17:20
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Hell, I used notepad++ for my shitty terraria mods and the TML discord act like I sacrificed them all to Satan lmfao
+
+Programmers are weirdly elitist about dumb shit.
+
+If I was making real code, then yeah I'd care - but this was some shit-ass mod that barely works.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I think people should be able to code without tools, but I'm not going to try to take the tools away."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/AdmiralMemo/status/1786553588770099354"
+author: "Michael \"Admiral Memo\" Moore "
+handle: AdmiralMemo
+post_id: "1786553588770099354"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I think people should be able to code without tools, but I'm not going to try to take the tools away."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/AdmiralMemo/status/1786553588770099354
+- Author: Michael "Admiral Memo" Moore  (@AdmiralMemo)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 00:29:02
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I think people should be able to code without tools, but I'm not going to try to take the tools away. If you can't code without it, you should git gud, but until then, keep coding at least. Something's better than nothing.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen There is an argument where people build systems as complex and resource intensive as their tooling will allow."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Ancients/status/1786548526392254591"
+author: "Ancients"
+handle: Ancients
+post_id: "1786548526392254591"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen There is an argument where people build systems as complex and resource intensive as their tooling will allow."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Ancients/status/1786548526392254591
+- Author: Ancients (@Ancients)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 00:08:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen There is an argument where people build systems as complex and resource intensive as their tooling will allow. 
+
+I don't think people should be forced to code in notepad, but I don't think people should be ok with tons of indirection because *their* IDE covers it up for them.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I guess this is just another expression of the \"if I had to suffer, you should too."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/CHChistris/status/1786749107635154982"
+author: "Chris【=◈︿◈=】👑"
+handle: CHChistris
+post_id: "1786749107635154982"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I guess this is just another expression of the \"if I had to suffer, you should too."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/CHChistris/status/1786749107635154982
+- Author: Chris【=◈︿◈=】👑 (@CHChistris)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 13:25:58
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I guess this is just another expression of the "if I had to suffer, you should too. To give sense to why I had to suffer" school of thought. 
+I prefer the "this sucks, and I hope I can make it better for everyone" school of thought
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It’s gatekeeping really."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/FChapeau/status/1786635431813034178"
+author: "François Drouin-Morin"
+handle: FChapeau
+post_id: "1786635431813034178"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It’s gatekeeping really."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/FChapeau/status/1786635431813034178
+- Author: François Drouin-Morin (@FChapeau)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 05:54:15
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It’s gatekeeping really. There has never been a better time to learn programming, with fantastic free tools, but you apparently need to be able to work a specific way if you want to be a “real” programmer.
+
+Programmers write programs.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Honestly a lot of the \"framework\" and \"transpiler\" idiocy  is what makes you reliant on tooling you don't need."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/JasonKn99664124/status/1786546828088844682"
+author: "Jason Knight"
+handle: JasonKn99664124
+post_id: "1786546828088844682"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Honestly a lot of the \"framework\" and \"transpiler\" idiocy  is what makes you reliant on tooling you don't need."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/JasonKn99664124/status/1786546828088844682
+- Author: Jason Knight (@JasonKn99664124)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 00:02:10
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Honestly a lot of the "framework" and "transpiler" idiocy  is what makes you reliant on tooling you don't need. 
+
+Y'all claim it makes things "easier" when all you're doing is adding extra steps. Things you'd recognize as a waste of time if you didn't have the IDE and tooling.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Sometimes we are limited by our environment, which may limit us to the tools available on the device we are working on."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/KlavsPeder/status/1786736699826917681"
+author: "Klavs Peder"
+handle: KlavsPeder
+post_id: "1786736699826917681"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Sometimes we are limited by our environment, which may limit us to the tools available on the device we are working on."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/KlavsPeder/status/1786736699826917681
+- Author: Klavs Peder (@KlavsPeder)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 12:36:39
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Sometimes we are limited by our environment, which may limit us to the tools available on the device we are working on. This may be 'cat > file.c', ed, ex, notepad or whatever.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Its not like you should only code without Support, but its nice to be able to."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Matagi1996/status/1786611007932203092"
+author: "Alexander"
+handle: Matagi1996
+post_id: "1786611007932203092"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Its not like you should only code without Support, but its nice to be able to."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Matagi1996/status/1786611007932203092
+- Author: Alexander (@Matagi1996)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 04:17:12
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Its not like you should only code without Support, but its nice to be able to. Sometimes you only are connected to a machine over a console via ssh and have to use Vim.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Why do they teach arithmetic, we all have calculators"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/NohBody3/status/1786647295032951196"
+author: "Noh Body"
+handle: NohBody3
+post_id: "1786647295032951196"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Why do they teach arithmetic, we all have calculators"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/NohBody3/status/1786647295032951196
+- Author: Noh Body (@NohBody3)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 06:41:24
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Why do they teach arithmetic, we all have calculators
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Not Notepad, but I have done a non-zero amount of programming in source control diff tools that have none of those features."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/RyanAlban1/status/1786746136751149410"
+author: "Ryan Alban"
+handle: RyanAlban1
+post_id: "1786746136751149410"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Not Notepad, but I have done a non-zero amount of programming in source control diff tools that have none of those features."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/RyanAlban1/status/1786746136751149410
+- Author: Ryan Alban (@RyanAlban1)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 13:14:09
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Not Notepad, but I have done a non-zero amount of programming in source control diff tools that have none of those features. It was the quickest way to solve the problem at the time.😅
+
+I also have yet to use a code review tool that had IntelliSense. Wish I had one, though...
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen People will justify programming C/C++ on Linux."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/YohanOttie/status/1786718354339721619"
+author: "TheLazyWanderer | YohanOttie 💄🎼🎤"
+handle: YohanOttie
+post_id: "1786718354339721619"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen People will justify programming C/C++ on Linux."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/YohanOttie/status/1786718354339721619
+- Author: TheLazyWanderer | YohanOttie 💄🎼🎤 (@YohanOttie)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 11:23:45
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen People will justify programming C/C++ on Linux. On leafpad.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen If you can’t code TCL using VI through a bash terminal on a remote Unix box with CVS SC, you can’t code."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/andokal/status/1786764675725541769"
+author: "andokal"
+handle: andokal
+post_id: "1786764675725541769"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen If you can’t code TCL using VI through a bash terminal on a remote Unix box with CVS SC, you can’t code."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/andokal/status/1786764675725541769
+- Author: andokal (@andokal)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 14:27:49
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen If you can’t code TCL using VI through a bash terminal on a remote Unix box with CVS SC, you can’t code. But seriously, more than half of the modern internet ran on that for about a decade (AOL).
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I would say, you should code in a way that is readable even in notepad."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/bmarci7/status/1786660310956347746"
+author: "Marcell Baranyai"
+handle: bmarci7
+post_id: "1786660310956347746"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I would say, you should code in a way that is readable even in notepad."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/bmarci7/status/1786660310956347746
+- Author: Marcell Baranyai (@bmarci7)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 07:33:07
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I would say, you should code in a way that is readable even in notepad.
+Using auto keyword and other modern stuff makes your code look like a cryptography without a good ide :/
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen The skill issue is strong with this one"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/codesonpaper/status/1786619675755114626"
+author: "Paper カミ"
+handle: codesonpaper
+post_id: "1786619675755114626"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen The skill issue is strong with this one"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/codesonpaper/status/1786619675755114626
+- Author: Paper カミ (@codesonpaper)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 04:51:39
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen The skill issue is strong with this one
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I learn to code in C++ back in 2011 and my teacher advised us to work for the moment in Notepad++ just to LEARN,for example,I remember when a function receives a pointer to try to call it placing a lot of '*' or '&' and wait for intellisense not to complain about what i'd written"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/cpps93/status/1786651316023902407"
+author: "Picos"
+handle: cpps93
+post_id: "1786651316023902407"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I learn to code in C++ back in 2011 and my teacher advised us to work for the moment in Notepad++ just to LEARN,for example,I remember when a function receives a pointer to try to call it placing a lot of '*' or '&' and wait for intellisense not to complain about what i'd written"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/cpps93/status/1786651316023902407
+- Author: Picos (@cpps93)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 06:57:22
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I learn to code in C++ back in 2011 and my teacher advised us to work for the moment in Notepad++ just to LEARN,for example,I remember when a function receives a pointer to try to call it placing a lot of '*' or '&' and wait for intellisense not to complain about what i'd written
+
+![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMt1kNiWUAAC-Vp?format=png&name=orig)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You never know when a time machine will transport you back into the early 90s and you have to live there and earn a living as software developer."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/fforw/status/1786603596831699134"
+author: "fforw"
+handle: fforw
+post_id: "1786603596831699134"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You never know when a time machine will transport you back into the early 90s and you have to live there and earn a living as software developer."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/fforw/status/1786603596831699134
+- Author: fforw (@fforw)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 03:47:45
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You never know when a time machine will transport you back into the early 90s and you have to live there and earn a living as software developer.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It's about gatekeeping and feeling superior, Sebastian."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/gengsterrebber/status/1786759021136876020"
+author: "gengsterrebber"
+handle: gengsterrebber
+post_id: "1786759021136876020"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It's about gatekeeping and feeling superior, Sebastian."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/gengsterrebber/status/1786759021136876020
+- Author: gengsterrebber (@gengsterrebber)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 14:05:21
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It's about gatekeeping and feeling superior, Sebastian. Duh.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen ctags and cscope."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/kechogarcia/status/1786556130254094548"
+author: "Kecho"
+handle: kechogarcia
+post_id: "1786556130254094548"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen ctags and cscope."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/kechogarcia/status/1786556130254094548
+- Author: Kecho (@kechogarcia)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 00:39:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen ctags and cscope. If you know, you know. Unfortunately not many know how to use them.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Why one would waste time & do things in more error prone ways, when good tools are available."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/kinjalkishor/status/1786607375253672156"
+author: "kinjal kishor"
+handle: kinjalkishor
+post_id: "1786607375253672156"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Why one would waste time & do things in more error prone ways, when good tools are available."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/kinjalkishor/status/1786607375253672156
+- Author: kinjal kishor (@kinjalkishor)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 04:02:46
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Why one would waste time & do things in more error prone ways, when good tools are available.
+Even best language will see very less adoption without good tools.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Legends use nano or vim as well!"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ok_devesh/status/1786591865829015630"
+author: "Devesh Gupta"
+handle: ok_devesh
+post_id: "1786591865829015630"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Legends use nano or vim as well!"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ok_devesh/status/1786591865829015630
+- Author: Devesh Gupta (@ok_devesh)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 03:01:08
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Legends use nano or vim as well!
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen :-)"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/real7a/status/1786649667536613425"
+author: "Semen Frish"
+handle: real7a
+post_id: "1786649667536613425"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen :-)"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/real7a/status/1786649667536613425
+- Author: Semen Frish (@real7a)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 06:50:49
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen :-)
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Using CodeBlocks instead of Visual Studio for some time taught me that we created IntelliSense for a reason."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sagiritarius/status/1786675436941959201"
+author: "Sagiritarius"
+handle: sagiritarius
+post_id: "1786675436941959201"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Using CodeBlocks instead of Visual Studio for some time taught me that we created IntelliSense for a reason."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sagiritarius/status/1786675436941959201
+- Author: Sagiritarius (@sagiritarius)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 08:33:13
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Using CodeBlocks instead of Visual Studio for some time taught me that we created IntelliSense for a reason.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen I know a lot of “professionals” who can’t code at all without an IDE, even on small projects."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sean_of_w/status/1786752619983028462"
+author: "ʍ‾ɟo‾uɐǝs"
+handle: sean_of_w
+post_id: "1786752619983028462"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen I know a lot of “professionals” who can’t code at all without an IDE, even on small projects."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sean_of_w/status/1786752619983028462
+- Author: ʍ‾ɟo‾uɐǝs (@sean_of_w)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 13:39:55
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen I know a lot of “professionals” who can’t code at all without an IDE, even on small projects. If you can’t work without it even at a low level of productivity, your ability to earn a living exists only at the whims of the IDE vendor. That’s one hell of a career risk.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen You should be able to program on paper! "
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/simplex_fx/status/1786689811182452913"
+author: "Simplex"
+handle: simplex_fx
+post_id: "1786689811182452913"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen You should be able to program on paper! "
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/simplex_fx/status/1786689811182452913
+- Author: Simplex (@simplex_fx)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 09:30:20
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen You should be able to program on paper! 
+
+That’s what I learned from very smart people teaching CS at uni for minimum wage told me, so it must be true!
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen Ah yes, high school memories where we all wrote HTML code in Notepad."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/sylioning/status/1786582180606730583"
+author: "leantóir tuirseach Artoria"
+handle: sylioning
+post_id: "1786582180606730583"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen Ah yes, high school memories where we all wrote HTML code in Notepad."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/sylioning/status/1786582180606730583
+- Author: leantóir tuirseach Artoria (@sylioning)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 02:22:39
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen Ah yes, high school memories where we all wrote HTML code in Notepad.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen If you wouldn't be able to do your job without an IDE there's a problem"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/xusifob/status/1786708701509800223"
+author: "Bastien M."
+handle: xusifob
+post_id: "1786708701509800223"
+date: 2024-05-04
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen If you wouldn't be able to do your job without an IDE there's a problem"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/xusifob/status/1786708701509800223
+- Author: Bastien M. (@xusifob)
+- Posted: 2024-05-04 10:45:24
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen If you wouldn't be able to do your job without an IDE there's a problem
+
+But ofc you're 10x more productive with your IDE
+
+It's similar with the use of AI
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It could be a good idea to start without intellisense."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/joimboim/status/1787040804738895884"
+author: "jmbm"
+handle: joimboim
+post_id: "1787040804738895884"
+date: 2024-05-05
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It could be a good idea to start without intellisense."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/joimboim/status/1787040804738895884
+- Author: jmbm (@joimboim)
+- Posted: 2024-05-05 08:45:04
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It could be a good idea to start without intellisense. Just to learn and not get overwhelmed. It is also pretty distracting when it gets something wrong. 
+I mean there is no valid reason why someone shouldn't use it. But you should be able to make something without it, i guess.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]
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+---
+title: "@SebAaltonen It’s about leveraging the tools to be as productive as possible."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/ren_metal_n_dev/status/1787076046405464324"
+author: "Renzo's Retro Game Dev and Metal Music"
+handle: ren_metal_n_dev
+post_id: "1787076046405464324"
+date: 2024-05-05
+archived: 2026-08-25
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - SebAaltonen
+description: "@SebAaltonen It’s about leveraging the tools to be as productive as possible."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "1786346729547153794"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/ren_metal_n_dev/status/1787076046405464324
+- Author: Renzo's Retro Game Dev and Metal Music (@ren_metal_n_dev)
+- Posted: 2024-05-05 11:05:06
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/**
+
+@SebAaltonen It’s about leveraging the tools to be as productive as possible. Who cares if you use an IDE. If someone on my team is dragging behind because of their tool choice on the other hand, that would be annoying.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/SebAaltonen/2024-05-03-why-should-one-be-able-to-code-without]]