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+title: "@rfleury The only consistent api in Linux land is a terminal from the 70s."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/GremlinIndustry/status/2000612891519590729"
+author: "Will Provost"
+handle: GremlinIndustry
+post_id: "2000612891519590729"
+date: 2025-12-15
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "@rfleury The only consistent api in Linux land is a terminal from the 70s."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/GremlinIndustry/status/2000612891519590729
+- Author: Will Provost (@GremlinIndustry)
+- Posted: 2025-12-15 17:04:17
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@GremlinIndustry** ^2000612891519590729
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+The only consistent api in Linux land is a terminal from the 70s.
+
+Sad
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive]]
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+---
+title: "@rfleury Day 700 of waiting until the uncultured realize that you can have a \"GUI\" terminal and you can have your stupid broken legacy serial console and limitless GUI and input options at the same time."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Mallchad/status/2000634378716876901"
+author: "Mallchad 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿"
+handle: Mallchad
+post_id: "2000634378716876901"
+date: 2025-12-15
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "@rfleury Day 700 of waiting until the uncultured realize that you can have a \"GUI\" terminal and you can have your stupid broken legacy serial console and limitless GUI and input options at the same time."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Mallchad/status/2000634378716876901
+- Author: Mallchad 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (@Mallchad)
+- Posted: 2025-12-15 18:29:40
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Mallchad** ^2000634378716876901
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+Day 700 of waiting until the uncultured realize that you can have a "GUI" terminal and you can have your stupid broken legacy serial console and limitless GUI and input options at the same time.
+
+We will have a 0.1% dyson swarm before the serial console goes away.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive]]
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+---
+title: "@rfleury Basically just sending character set binary data, so whether the Terminal or your own GUI application renders the data doesn't really matter."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/MrJayLC/status/2000629279709892854"
+author: "John"
+handle: MrJayLC
+post_id: "2000629279709892854"
+date: 2025-12-15
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "@rfleury Basically just sending character set binary data, so whether the Terminal or your own GUI application renders the data doesn't really matter."
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/MrJayLC/status/2000629279709892854
+- Author: John (@MrJayLC)
+- Posted: 2025-12-15 18:09:24
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@MrJayLC** ^2000629279709892854
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+Basically just sending character set binary data, so whether the Terminal or your own GUI application renders the data doesn't really matter.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive]]
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+---
+title: "@rfleury i'd agree on the first two, but remote is a hard sell"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/badcop_/status/2000640946795655678"
+author: "badcop"
+handle: badcop_
+post_id: "2000640946795655678"
+date: 2025-12-15
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "@rfleury i'd agree on the first two, but remote is a hard sell"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/badcop_/status/2000640946795655678
+- Author: badcop (@badcop_)
+- Posted: 2025-12-15 18:55:46
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@badcop_** ^2000640946795655678
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+i'd agree on the first two, but remote is a hard sell
+
+your options involve either rendering the application on the remote (which means running a display server), or building your application itself with a server/client model
+
+in tui land, it's just free
+
+**2/** **@rfleury** ^2000721555815645634
+
+**@badcop_**
+
+None of this makes sense when you consider that TUI (or really any terminal output) is a special case of GUI
+
+**3/** **@badcop_** ^2000730298359930887
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+i'm not sure that helps your argument
+
+special cases are usually simpler to solve for than the broader, general case
+
+i can calculate the area of a square with 1 variable, but i need 2 to solve for the area of any rectangle
+
+**4/** **@rfleury** ^2000734128497741886
+
+My point is that you could imagine different (better) primitives, which are a different special case than the TUI, but also more flexible and expressive w.r.t. graphics. This would be far superior in a computing world characterized by ubiquitous high resolution screens, GPUs, and high CPU clock rates and core counts.
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive]]
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+---
+title: "@rfleury Here before someone mentions X port forwarding :D"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/valigo/status/2000609391511286233"
+author: "Valentin Ignatev"
+handle: valigo
+post_id: "2000609391511286233"
+date: 2025-12-15
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "@rfleury Here before someone mentions X port forwarding :D"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/valigo/status/2000609391511286233
+- Author: Valentin Ignatev (@valigo)
+- Posted: 2025-12-15 16:50:23
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@valigo** ^2000609391511286233
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+Here before someone mentions X port forwarding :D
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive]]
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+---
+title: "@rfleury It is weird to me how there has been lots of advancement in tools that GUIs can be built on top of (Iced, EGUI, DVUI, technically Bevy_UI, Raylib even, and dear IMGUI)"
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/Rdrazg/status/2000982223043084443"
+author: "Ryan Drazga"
+handle: Rdrazg
+post_id: "2000982223043084443"
+date: 2025-12-16
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "@rfleury It is weird to me how there has been lots of advancement in tools that GUIs can be built on top of (Iced, EGUI, DVUI, technically Bevy_UI, Raylib even, and dear IMGUI)"
+in_reply_to: ""
+parent_post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/Rdrazg/status/2000982223043084443
+- Author: Ryan Drazga (@Rdrazg)
+- Posted: 2025-12-16 17:31:53
+
+## Branch
+
+**1/** **@Rdrazg** ^2000982223043084443
+
+**@rfleury**
+
+It is weird to me how there has been lots of advancement in tools that GUIs can be built on top of (Iced, EGUI, DVUI, technically Bevy_UI, Raylib even, and dear IMGUI)
+
+Yet we are now re-inventing GUIs that ONLY work in very specific CLIs and are... worse then some of these?
+
+## Related
+
+- Spine: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive]]
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+---
+title: "None of these advantages are mutually exclusive with GUI, it’s just that legacy infrastructure doesn’t support it well."
+type: archive
+source: twitter
+source_url: "https://x.com/rfleury/status/2000608328498737398"
+author: "Ryan Fleury"
+handle: rfleury
+post_id: "2000608328498737398"
+date: 2025-12-15
+archived: 2026-08-26
+draft: false
+tags:
+  - archive
+  - twitter
+  - rfleury
+description: "None of these advantages are mutually exclusive with GUI, it’s just that legacy infrastructure doesn’t support it well."
+in_reply_to: ""
+---
+
+## Source
+
+- URL: https://x.com/rfleury/status/2000608328498737398
+- Author: Ryan Fleury (@rfleury)
+- Posted: 2025-12-15 16:46:09
+
+## Thread
+
+**1/** **@rfleury** ^2000608328498737398
+
+None of these advantages are mutually exclusive with GUI, it’s just that legacy infrastructure doesn’t support it well.
+
+Branches: [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive/2025-12-15-valigo-here-before-someone-mentions-x-port-forwarding-d]], [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive/2025-12-15-GremlinIndustry-the-only-consistent-api-in-linux-land-is-a]], [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive/2025-12-15-MrJayLC-basically-just-sending-character-set-binary-data]], [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive/2025-12-15-Mallchad-day-700-of-waiting-until-the-uncultured-realize]], [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive/2025-12-15-badcop_-id-agree-on-the-first-two-but-remote-is-a-hard]], [[archive/threads/rfleury/2025-12-15-none-of-these-advantages-are-mutually-exclusive/2025-12-16-Rdrazg-it-is-weird-to-me-how-there-has-been-lots-of]]